Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

[Sooh]

Why? [lol apparently you have to post more than 5 characters]

They just do. You've both been defending one another throughout, and now you're doing the complete reverse. Weird play for scum team perhaps, but it was my first thought reading them.

 

[Zack]

I think I'd read Sooh as very town for the point she made about me and Lassie being alive for so long.

Why?

I didn't.

Visor did.

I found his progression after that weird blocking thing clearing. e.g.: his reads list, his explanations of his thought processes.

And his reads have been bad consistently, which I would usually take as a clear sign of his towniness.

Okay I went back and looked, and you did seem dismissive of the wagon in #960, though in fairness it seems you weren't one of the people saying how crazy townie that tantrum was.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

The percentage is the same, the number of players required is lower each day.

 

[Glossysushi]

Why?


Okay I went back and looked, and you did seem dismissive of the wagon in #960, though in fairness it seems you weren't one of the people saying how crazy townie that tantrum was.

irt Sooh: she modded a game in which I looked extremely, crazy townie, for helping lynch my teammate day 1 and for being heavily bussed by another teammate (and then he was vig shot). I survived for so long, and ended up winning. She is leery of someone who has a large thread presence being alive for that long, because that could indicate that they are scum.

That's a very logical conclusion to make. I've made it about Lassie.

 

[Glossysushi]

They just do. You've both been defending one another throughout, and now you're doing the complete reverse. Weird play for scum team perhaps, but it was my first thought reading them.

Alright, I think I get that the complete reverse would be weird.

What would you think if one of us maintained our read on the other, while the other switched it?

tbh, I wasn't expecting Lassie to flip his read on me. That in itself is suspicious. However, my point is that I flipped my read the day of the visor lynch.

 

[Zack]

irt Sooh: she modded a game in which I looked extremely, crazy townie, for helping lynch my teammate day 1 and for being heavily bussed by another teammate (and then he was vig shot). I survived for so long, and ended up winning. She is leery of someone who has a large thread presence being alive for that long, because that could indicate that they are scum.

That's a very logical conclusion to make. I've made it about Lassie.

That doesn't answer my question. I asked why that makes her town.

 

[Sooh]

Alright, I think I get that the complete reverse would be weird.

What would you think if one of us maintained our read on the other, while the other switched it?

tbh, I wasn't expecting Lassie to flip his read on me. That in itself is suspicious. However, my point is that I flipped my read the day of the visor lynch.

Fair enough. When I go back to reread I'll take that into consideration.

(I still feel like you have big pockets and it irks me)

 

[Glossysushi]

That doesn't answer my question. I asked why that makes her town.

She and other DragonMount players who have played with me after that game have made the same conclusion ever since (that I'm scum because I've survived for so long, or because of my tone, or because I'm buddying, or because I'm distancing). The only people who actually town read me were scum attempting to achieve a pocket.

maybe a bad generalization, but it is a conclusion that I have to make after seeing that no one on DragonMount wanted to trust me again after that.

Tinfoiling is expected.

 

[Sooh]

That doesn't answer my question. I asked why that makes her town.

Glossy has been more or less saying I've been town since the get-go. Why this would be the thing that convinced everyone I'm not sure of.

 

[Glossysushi]

Fair enough. When I go back to reread I'll take that into consideration.

(I still feel like you have big pockets and it irks me)

I'm not about to appease your concern. I do have big pockets. That's one of my skills as either alignment -- pocketing the other alignment for benefits.

 

[Glossysushi]

Glossy has been more or less saying I've been town since the get-go. Why this would be the thing that convinced everyone I'm not sure of.

The exact progression was as follows:

Sooh makes a few rl posts, saying she's busy. I don't like it and give her a scum lean and I'm mean to her.

She responds in anger, and I ignore it. Because loool...

She catches up to the thread and makes a reads list and an excellent catch up post. I find that towny, especially because I agree with those reads (or at least I can see the line of reasoning she comes from, even if I don't agree with all the reads).

She's been consistently mindmelding with me about certain things, such as the Lassie thing she posted a while ago.

Btw, Backwards Logic is scum according to visor, and I'm inclined to sheep his reads. If we don't vote Lassie today, we're at least killing BL. We need to nail scum either way.

 

[Zack]

She and other DragonMount players who have played with me after that game have made the same conclusion ever since (that I'm scum because I've survived for so long, or because of my tone, or because I'm buddying, or because I'm distancing). The only people who actually town read me were scum attempting to achieve a pocket.

maybe a bad generalization, but it is a conclusion that I have to make after seeing that no one on DragonMount wanted to trust me again after that.

Tinfoiling is expected.

I guess. From my perspective it seems more lazy than anything.

 

[Lassie]

Glossy is just flailing right now. This isn't her solving anything, this is just her spamming in panic because she realizes her plan of reading me scum has already failed, since I just posted a post that pretty much defeats what reasoning she hoped to use against me(that I was voting her, because she was voting me - but since I were able to respond with a copy/paste of a read list, containing reads of her that is obviously unlikely for me to have just made up in that time, she knows she can't use that reason anymore)

 

[Legato Endless]

Apologies, I was quite ill (if not fully recovered) and that has cut deeply into my online activity.

Anyway, spam vote onto:

Vote: Backwards Logic.

Will move later this evening after I'm caught up.

 

[Glossysushi]

Glossy is just flailing right now. This isn't her solving anything, this is just her spamming in panic because she realizes her plan of reading me scum has already failed, since I just posted a post that pretty much defeats what reasoning she hoped to use against me(that I was voting her, because she was voting me - but since I were able to respond with a copy/paste of a read list, containing reads of her that is obviously unlikely for me to have just made up in that time, she knows she can't use that reason anymore)

uh....?

no, I'm waiting for you to post your grand reveal.

In the meantime, I am interacting with people.

 

[Glossysushi]

I guess. From my perspective it seems more lazy than anything.

Can you go more into this?

 

[Glossysushi]

What's also quite amusing to me is that I was doing the same things D1 and D2, and you were town reading me for it.

I am not more of a spammy poster aorn compared to then.

 

[Lassie]

Just took this from the player roster. Here's my reads list.

al sipsclar- Done very little. Voted visor, that's it. Scum.
arakhor- Has not defended himself much or given many reads. Scum.
autolycus- Uhh, I think I remember a catch up post, but still nothing. Null.
backwards logic- Has posted several rant like posts complaining about speed of the thread and fluff. Has had some bad reactions to votes on both himself and others. Scum.
bsmith- posted once or twice. Can't tell. Null.
cass_- The only reason I'm town reading her atm is because Cuth has spewed her town by white knighting her and soft defending her.
choxorn- Low content, has provided helpful answers when I've asked, but has done little analysis or work on his own. However, his tone seems good. Slight town lean.
cuthilius- Very strange reaction to Visor, then switch to me looks strange after I move off Visor. Doesn't think that visor and I are teamed, yet has us as his top scum reads. Compare his play this game to Mel Gibson, and I think we've got a winner. Scum.
edse- Has posted very little. Seems scummy to me, so I'm reading him as the opposite because I can't read him apparently. Town lean.
glossysushi- Me. Lock town.
golden1knight- His one catch up post to vote thread consensus 'randomly' doesn't look very good. That's an understatement. Combined with being called out by King Morgan (instead of all the other lurkers that KM could possibly call out). Scum.
jarrema- Has made several moves like voting me with pretty good reasoning that I don't think would come from scum. Visor also apparently reads her well, and he's reading her as town. However, I disagree with his comment about one of her last posts looking townie. Her last post about Lassie needing to die if I am scum (lol!) does not look townie. Lassie isn't the only one who has defended me, and he's been very townie. This looks like a safe threat to make. Scum lean.
kennigit- Has been pretty consensus town read. I like his push on me and his progression seems natural. However, I would not like him to sit back and relax, so I do want to see more work from him, especially his thoughts irt recent happenings. Town.
kingmorgan- At first, I thought he was townie because of his line of questioning, reasoning of votes, and general content. However, Arakhtor's 'random' vote on him and his backing off from Visor because of reward/incentive reasons makes him look bad. Scum.
landlubber- Again, I have some misgivings. Her vote on Visor seemed to be just as heat was starting to pick up on him, though her reasons for it were fine. Her vote onto another leading wagon was seen as opportunistic by Zack, which I actually agree with. The timing was bad, and the reasoning was not as solid as the first time around. But, her reactions and her anger have seemed very townie... Town lean.
lassie- My strongest town read. Really bad thread entrance, check. A lot of aggressive voting, check. Explanations of reads are really good. Interactions with others always have him come off looking better. Also has me pocketed, lel.
legato endless- Super towny tone and natural responses. I really liked her defense of Cuthilius, because it seemed she really believed what she said. However, I don't think this defense clears Cuth in any way. In fact, his response to her defense (not addressing it, and saying that what she's done isn't particularly townie) again spews her as town. Town.
lohrenswald- Initially I liked her interactions with Lassie, but right now she's skating by on nothing but a wide amount of thread consensus that she's town. She needs to step it up. Town lean.
mat93- Again, starting to doubt. His reactions to other people's questioning and his reads are pretty good, imo. However, his exchange with Cuthilius looks really strange. Neither of them look good from that. Scum lean.
murska- At some point I had a town lean on her, because of her reentry into the thread and explanation of her voting. However, a lot of her current voting seems to be moving along to thread consensus, she has not provided am updated WTL list, and she has said outright scummy things about lynching people she has not solidly given a scum read on. I see no consideration of the other people in the game besides the top wagons in her reads. Scum.
newyn- Apparently he's town, but I really have no clue.
pouter pigeon- Starting to really like his content. My town read on him is strengthening, especially with his wolf ping on Mat, which I agree with a lot. Town.
sooh- Going AWOL. I liked her catch up reads list a lot, so I'm going to temporarily give her a town lean. Town lean.
takhisis- I know nothing. However, everyone seems to think he's town, or at least, a lot of people are ignoring him. Town lean.
visorslash- His last few posts have been townie, and I really think it would be reaching for me to continue to tunnel him. His response to being prodded is the only thing that's mildly suspicious, but it's not enough to warrant a scum read/lynching. I buy that he wanted to chill and not do as much work. Town.
xym- The very few posts she's made seem to be of good content and do not seem to be an attempt to sheep thread consensus. Town.
zack- His attitude seems to be super towny, though there is a world in which I tinfoil and see all the things he's said as mere distraction from game content. Town for now.

This post is enough for me to solve the whole game.

"backwards logic- Has posted several rant like posts complaining about speed of the thread and fluff. Has had some bad reactions to votes on both himself and others. Scum."
Considering how backwards logic had 2 posts at the point she made this post, it's super weird for her to scum read him this much and with such certainty. She even exaggerates and says he had posted "several rants", meaning more than 2. I think she would be more careful of making this

"cuthilius- Very strange reaction to Visor, then switch to me looks strange after I move off Visor. Doesn't think that visor and I are teamed, yet has us as his top scum reads. Compare his play this game to Mel Gibson, and I think we've got a winner. Scum."
Says that cuthilius is "strange", this is very typical for a scum to describe their scum partners in this way. They know they are right, so if they are asked to elaborate how they are strange, it's easy/safe for them to find and give explanation.


"murska- At some point I had a town lean on her, because of her reentry into the thread and explanation of her voting. However, a lot of her current voting seems to be moving along to thread consensus, she has not provided am updated WTL list, and she has said outright scummy things about lynching people she has not solidly given a scum read on. I see no consideration of the other people in the game besides the top wagons in her reads. Scum."
Notice that she says "at some point", trying to minimize the time she thought he was town. Compare with KingMorgan who we now know is town: "At first, I thought he was townie because" <- see, here she doesn't mind to mention that she town read him for a period, and not just "at some point".
Also, notice how much details she has about Murska, who weren't really posting too much. Yet she can point out like 3-4 different things that were scummy.

"newyn- Apparently he's town, but I really have no clue." Actually I'm not too sure on this one, but I could see the "but I really have no clue." as an excuse for going along with those saying he is town. I mostly have Newyn as sure scum because of Kennigit's focus after subbing in for him. Kennigit's first post is talking some nonsense about Glossy's punishment. Then managing to provide no reads other than he thought I was scum, although he were in thread 3-4 times, and when he was town, his very first posts contained several reads and had that aggressive town vibe to them.

"xym- The very few posts she's made seem to be of good content and do not seem to be an attempt to sheep thread consensus. Town."
"seem to be", is a distancing from actually saying that it is. I see no reason to word it in such cautious way.

Compare with people we now know were towns, notice how strongly she calls some of them town.

"pouter pigeon- Starting to really like his content. My town read on him is strengthening, especially with his wolf ping on Mat, which I agree with a lot. Town."
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"zack- His attitude seems to be super towny, though there is a world in which I tinfoil and see all the things he's said as mere distraction from game content. Town for now." <- yes I'm 100% sure that Zack is always town in this game, so it's valid to add it.
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"kennigit- Has been pretty consensus town read. I like his push on me and his progression seems natural. However, I would not like him to sit back and relax, so I do want to see more work from him, especially his thoughts irt recent happenings. Town."
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"visorslash- His last few posts have been townie, and I really think it would be reaching for me to continue to tunnel him. His response to being prodded is the only thing that's mildly suspicious, but it's not enough to warrant a scum read/lynching. I buy that he wanted to chill and not do as much work. Town."
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"jarrema- Has made several moves like voting me with pretty good reasoning that I don't think would come from scum. Visor also apparently reads her well, and he's reading her as town. However, I disagree with his comment about one of her last posts looking townie. Her last post about Lassie needing to die if I am scum (lol!) does not look townie. Lassie isn't the only one who has defended me, and he's been very townie. This looks like a safe threat to make. Scum lean." Ends on a scum lean, but notice the stronger wording at the first part, pointing out the towny things.

 

[Lassie]

uh....?

no, I'm waiting for you to post your grand reveal.

In the meantime, I am interacting with people.

Why are you waiting for me to solve things rather than doing it yourself?

 

[Lassie]

uh....?

no, I'm waiting for you to post your grand reveal.

In the meantime, I am interacting with people.

Just look at this really, she admits to be waiting for my post, so she can defend herself against it. Why would a town care to wait for such a post, knowing they are town and can easily put arguments against what will come?