Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

[Glossysushi]

The Zack reason is bad, imo.

lynching a townie every day seems to have been what town has been doing.

I think the easiest way out atm is just to sheep visor's reads. Everyone he's defended has flipped town.

lol, seems like a terrible way to play atm, but it's very likely that we're losing.

 

[Zack]

yeah I was gonna say, as opposed to all the people who have been lynching mafia?

 

[Glossysushi]

one of visor's final reads lists. He later defends cuth and mat after making this list.

Town
autolycus
bsmith
glossysushi
choxorn
jarrema
kennigit
kingmorgan
landlubber
lassie
legato endless
lohrenswald
pouter pigeon
takhisis
visorslash
xym
murska
sooh

Neutral
al sipsclar
cuthilius
edse
golden1knight
mat93

Scum
zack
backwards logic
arakhor
cass_
newyn

Xym is almost certainly town from my experience with him

Cass only having three Townies is pretty funny

He also defended Jarrema, King Morgan, me, Lassie, Cuth, Takhsis, and Mat93.

everyone he's defended has flipped town.

He sort of changed his read on Newyn, though, halfway through. Not sure what that means.

I think after we lynched visor, the game kind of imploded. I also messed up -_-

I'd take a hard look at Zack and Cass based off these posts, and definitely we should lynch Backwards Logic, who was his most definite scum read.

Sorry for the completely unoriginal reads, but my reads haven't been helping me at all this game.
Vote: Backwards Logic

I'd also like to take a look at edse, landlubber, Lohrens, Legato.

 

[Glossysushi]

I am definitely going to return to my original reads.

-.-

pulling those up to.

call me crazy, but midgame reads are terrible.

-.-

 

[Zack]

How can that be his final reads list if arakhor is on it?

 

[Glossysushi]

I

can't

see

all

my

posts

what is this nonsense

 

[Glossysushi]

How can that be his final reads list if arakhor is on it?

he doesn't make another one of these after that.

he does segmented reads (which I've explained)

 

[Glossysushi]

he does tunnel on me and Lassie (mostly out of spite) at the time of his death.

I'd like to point out that he maintains most of his reads.

here's the link:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/search.php?searchid=2863968&pp=30

 

[Glossysushi]

"Al sips might be town, jarrema still town, xym town, auto town, km minor town lean, "

dying town reads.

 

[Kennigit]

yes,glossy is correct. visorslash's last list of compiled reads was a day 1 (DAY 1) compilation that is wrong about two townies (arakhor, newyn aka Kennigit 2.0, though admittedly you don't know that) and also includes Zack and Cass who I JUST accused, and who you JUST posted

I don't think that was my question. I was going to ask you about your reasons for the others, but what I don't understand is your reads on those two [Zack and Cass], as those are my strongest town reads atm.

so in your mind that day 1 read list that is wrong on at least 3/5 reads IN YOUR MIND (if you believed I was town it would be 4/5) is the one to trust, and will lead to town victory?

I grant you Backwards logic can be scum but why the heck should we follow a day 1 read because a townie couldn't find scum?

 

[Glossysushi]

yes,glossy is correct. visorslash's last list of compiled reads was a day 1 (DAY 1) compilation that is wrong about two townies (arakhor, newyn aka Kennigit 2.0, though admittedly you don't know that) and also includes Zack and Cass who I JUST accused, and who you JUST posted




so in your mind that day 1 read list that is wrong on at least 3/5 reads IN YOUR MIND (if you believed I was town it would be 4/5) is the one to trust, and will lead to town victory?

I grant you Backwards logic can be scum but why the heck should we follow a day 1 read because a townie couldn't find scum?

I'm not sure!

aughhhhhhhhhhh

I have so far been wrong on every single one of the people I wanted to lynch.

That's extremely frustrating.

I kind of just want to lynch Lohren now that I know everyone else who posted in the first 1-2 pages has flipped town already.

-.-

there's no really solid reason, though the lack of content and even trying to produce reads for a while probably doesn't help lohrens look town

idk!

Your entrance into the thread about wanting to lynch me because of some misunderstanding was pretty bad, but you have been starting to act like the v.1 of yourself, so I don't know.

Cuth is most likely town.

augh

Legato? Cass? Zack? edse? BL.

not sure if people would have CFD'ed onto choxorn D1 if scum. Not sure. >.<

 

[Glossysushi]

I don't know.

I don't have any solid reads except myself now.

LOL

actually

this is bad

but Cuth maybe is my strongest town read?

LOL

When I have to make a read like that

that makes me cringe

 

[Glossysushi]

Also

the day of Visor's lynch

Lohrens chose not to vote him.

A lot of townies were on Visor's wagon, I think.

Eh.

Just as they were on Lassie's wagon, I think.

There's no need to be on wagon for scum this game.

 

[Glossysushi]

my point is

if I don't take visor's reads into account, or my own early game reads into account, I'd be reading Zack and Cass as my strongest town.

but I remember my first read of Cass was scum, as well as my first read of Zack was scum.

 

[Kennigit]

Your entrance into the thread about wanting to lynch me because of some misunderstanding was pretty bad, but you have been starting to act like the v.1 of yourself, so I don't know.

That's actually wrong, as I was trying to say it would make no sense for a mafia to get injured. I was defending you in my misunderstanding, that ou couldn't be mafia mechanically.

But, it was all a misunderstanding on me thinking you were injured and not seeing the ban from talking.


Let's slow down and look at the vote record intelligibly. I did not go hunt midday tallies other than the one I posted myself day 1

 

[Glossysushi]

but no clue.

lol.

can someone teach me how to find my earlier posts? I can't find them.

 

[Glossysushi]

That's actually wrong, as I was trying to say it would make no sense for a mafia to get injured. I was defending you in my misunderstanding, that ou couldn't be mafia mechanically.

But, it was all a misunderstanding on me thinking you were injured and not seeing the ban from talking.


Let's slow down and look at the vote record intelligibly. I did not go hunt midday tallies other than the one I posted myself day 1

Ah, alright.

Do you know who is voting you atm? All I remember is Cuth.

Also, whoever unvoted Lassie the other day doesn't look good. Will go back and check.

 

[Glossysushi]

ah, it was you, Kennigit v. 2. XD

That's why I didn't like you.

 

[Kennigit]

there's only been two votes this whole phase, choxorn and cuthillius on me, there's no rush.

zack you seem to be overly-critical of the vote record, this is cherry picking but you did immediately dismiss bsmith talking after n3 kill (and this is bsmith's stated reason as to why he voted murska)

These are the folks that were on the Arakhor wagon on D1 (myself included):

(Bsmith, choxorn, Kennigit, Murska, Xym, Zack, Visorslash, Mat93. Lassie, Jarrema).

I am willing to bet we have at least one scummer on this list as Arakhor made himself a fairly easy to justify vote. It would be easy to hide on this wagon.

Given BL’s prompt yesterday, I’ll go ahead and vote: Murska again today.

10 people voted for Arakhor. There are 27 people in the game. You could randomly select any ten people and it's highly likely there'd be at least one scum there. Your point is meaningless.

and combo'd right now

yeah I was gonna say, as opposed to all the people who have been lynching mafia?

I am going to guess that mafia, as mafia usually do, are kind of scared to vote in chunks. From day 1 they probably ended up split across the arakhor/choxorn/lassie top candidates, I personally think lohr shows some scumminess sprinkling his votes around, and mid-day 1 we had a few shifts in leading candidates and some tight races.

There's gotta be some good guidance there

say if choxorn was town, the day 1 final tally could have been split with Glossy, Cass, Lohr, and someone on Arakhor

 

[Kennigit]

IF I assume choxorn was innocent (and other assumtpions, in a Lohr-Cass-Glossy trio, with someone on Arakhor day 1)

Spoiler :

day 1; votes compiled alphabetically by pizza, maybe these are the order of votes though

Arakhor: 10 (Bsmith, choxorn, Kennigit, Murska, Xym, Zack, Visorslash, Mat93. Lassie, Jarrema)

Choxorn: 7 (Cass_, Pouter Pigeon, Arakhor, Cuthillius*, Glossysushi, Al Sipsclar, Sooh)

*midday tally Cuthillius had a vote on Glossy when glossy was in the lead, with visorslash, kennigit 1.0, pouter pigeon, takhisis, and jarema all had voted for him. I have a sneaking suspicion glossy has never had a vote placed on him by a mafia, or maybe cuthillius moved off him (I do not know timing of the vote, I know I was one of the later ones)

Lassie: 5 (KingMorgan, Lohrenswald, Newyn, landlubber, edse)

Edse: 2 (Backwards Logic, Legato Endless)

Zack: 1 (Autolycus)
Glossysushi: 1 (Takhisis)
Cuthillius: 1 (Golden1Knight)



day 2 I am not putting together tally at this moment; was not posted



day 3 appears actually in order of votes of final tally; oldest at bottom

Spoiler :

(only final vote placement is included here)

End of round
choxorn voted Lassie
Kennigit voted Cuthilius
Xym unvoted
Al Sips voted Legato Endless
KM voted Mat93
Edse voted Mat93
Bsmith voted Mat93
Lassie voted Mat93
Zack voted Mat93
BL voted Murska
Golden voted Lassie
Cass voted Legato Endless
Cuthillius voted Mat93
Murska voted Al Sips
Lohrenswald voted Lassie
Auto voted Cuthillius
Mat93 voted Lassie
Takhisis voted Lassie
lubber voted Lassie

Mat93: 6* (Cuthillius, Zack, Lassie, Bsmith, Edse, Kingmorgan)
Lassie: 6 (Landlubber, Takhisis, Mat93, Lohrenswald, Golden1Knight, choxorn)


Cuthillius: (Autolycus, Kennigit)
Legato Endless: (Cass_, Al Sipsclar)
Al Sipsclar: (Murska)
Murska: (BL)

Unvote: (Xym)
No vote: Glossysushi, Legato Endless, Sooh

Murksa is very suspicious in a final vote count there, and he was on arakhor day 1

day 4

Spoiler :

#1774 - BSmith votes Murska
#1779 - Sooh votes Lassie
#1784 - Glossy votes Lassie
#1814 - Legato votes Backwards
#1828 - Lassie votes Glossy
#1829 - Glossy votes Backwards Logic
#1840 - Al Sips votes Edse
#1841 - Glossy votes Lassie
#1848 - Zack votes Lassie
#1917 - Murska votes Lassie
#1928 - Choxorn votes Lassie
#1930 - Kennigit votes Glossy
#1931 - Landlubber votes Lassie
#1936 Lohrenswald votes Lassie
#1937 Autolycus votes Lassie
#1939 Golden1knight votes Lassie
#1940 Cuthillius votes Lassie

Lassie (10)- Sooh, Glossy, Glossy, Zack, Murska, Choxorn, Landlubber, Lohrenswald**, Autolycus, Golden1knight, Cuthillius
Glossy (2)- Lassie, Kennigit
Murska (1)- BSmith
Backwards Logic (1)- Legato Endless, Glossy
Edse (1)- Al Sips

did not get to vote before hammer was reached: cass

**lohrenswald had a key vote here, again I am under the assumption that scum are kind of afraid to complete the hammer. Cuthillius indicates he did it accidentally, but he probably knew it was up there in the votes

Cuthillius is super duper iffy, you can see how if we could credit him as town a lot could be determined

I'm leaning murska based on the votes right now