Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

All right, a ton to dig through, mostly me deflating scum counterpoints, but here we go.

But you've wanted to lynch me to save yourself...

I made post 2177. You call me a (misguided) townie . Who's lying exactly?
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I never said scum. I never said confirmed townie. You are putting words in my mouth and exaggerating points I made to push a narrative.

Why would it matter anyways? Only mafia change their minds? :crazyeye:

You pretty much say you're scum with glossy here. If you're town, you'd be voting glossy here because, your words "There's a high probability at least one of glossysushi and Zack are scum" Now, let's pretend you're town for a moment. Townie Zack would be voting glossy because you basically came right out and said he has to be scum. But let's be real: you're not voting glossy because you want a counterwagon to save your buddy. Truthfully, you want to keep the votes close so your scum block can hammer the lynch anyway you see fit. All you need is a mislynch and it's pretty much game over, so why not play balls to the wall to make it happen? Taking this further: I don't start the wagon on glossy today. Do you start the wagon on glossy? I think not.
Again, you're exaggerating what I said. High probability is not 100% probability. And, as I said, that analysis was purely based on kill analysis from a neutral standpoint.

Yes you did start the wagon on glossy lol. You're the first to vote her. More lies. No I didn't start the wagon on glossy, because you posted first, I couldn't have started it. This is silly.

So any other player's scum reads changing over time makes him/her townie as it's part of the townie process, but I do it and I'm scum. Gotcha.
:lol:

You're saying this after you accuse me of the same thing you're acting incredulous about here? Give me a break.

Okay, let's stop with the Underground comparisons right now. I explain myself >>HERE<< for why you and Visor are left alive at the end. This game does not compare in any way to Underground because of the vanilla theme. In a flavor heavy game (like Underground), the abilities are the threat due to their point and click nature. In a vanilla game, the players are. And in this game due to no PM's, the only mechanism to find scum is the in-thread interaction. So assuming I'm scum, it behooves me to nightkill every talkative player to stifle conversation and later on drive an easy lynch or three. Different games, different tactics.
Right, because you would never leave me and glossy alive because you thought you could get us lynched. Oh wait, that's exactly what you did.

That choxorn post was mighty convenient, wasn't it? Needed an excuse to vote me after your first post defending glossy and he provided it. Glad you can point to that to look like it was 'part of the townie process.'
I could post literally anything and you would twist it into somehow making me scum. lol, this is absurd. Why would I be looking for an excuse to vote you specifically? Why not just kill you if I'm scum? Your logic is unnatural.

I find one of the better ways to gauge reactions is to start two wagons on two people who have clearly been agreement on some level. At this stage, Lassie and Murska looked like good options to see how they react to the pressure and how others did as well. It got derailed before it ever really took off, mostly due to Lassie's bizarre claim, but posts from Zack, Cuth and Murksa as well continued to push it in the Lassie direction.
Maybe because there were actual reasons behind Lassie wagon, while you literally just said "hey, what about murska?" with no explanation.

At least somebody gets it.



This in spades.



Absolutely reasonable conclusion.
:lol:

Underlining mine. Didn't you just call glossy scum?
Keep trying to "catch" me with little semantic things that are meaningless. Apparently now I called glossy scum while simultaneously defending her and doing my damnedest to save her.

Yea, just on you and the scum on me.
Earthling?

Scum need a mislynch. I'm that mislynch. Not surprised you're pushing it.
Scum need a mislynch. glossy is that mislynch. Not surprised you're pushing it.

I was starting to doubt, but yeah that seals it. You are scum.

Unvote, Vote: Backwards Logic
 
lol.

I'm not scum. Does that mean the reverse is possibly true? Nice that you include Choxorn there as well.

That's two different scenarios. I'm sure one of you are scum and was checking what conclusions could be made.

I see only 3 scum on that wagon. Is the fourth you?

I know how to read.

If that wagon would be 2 scum+1 town, they only need one more town vote.

underlining doesn't make something true, edse.

I was just highlighting the names.

Take out Cuthilius and probably Lohrens. It's more likely that you're scum at this point, but nice effort.

both Choxorn and I are town. Backwards is scum. Where is the active mafia you're talking about coming in to hammer Backwards? The hope for today from Mafia is to get me gone. They've left me alive expressly for that purpose.

Now, carry on. If you think I am scum, you should probably vote me. -- oh, but no! That would look bad for you, wouldn't it?

Vote Backwards Logic, and try out this 'unlikely' world of yours. Every other likely world that town has pursued has ended up in failure.

Two townvotes on a townie is one to many, so we need to be very sure before placing votes.

I always find it weird when people so confidently declare x CANNOT be mafia with y, as if distancing and bussing don't exist.

Bussing if your partner is in no danger and the lead candidate has claimed a power role?

Why is one very unlikely and the other not? Because you say so? Cuthillius and Lohrenswald are in both of your lists btw, so what you're really saying is lubber/bl/legato --> town because <reasons> and zack/murska/kingmorgan scum because <reasons>. BUT, then you conclude that the scum team is zack/glossy/murska/cuth. Where did Kingmorgan go? And if cuth is likely mafia in multiple worlds, why aren't you pushing to lynch him? Probably because a glossy mislynch is easier.

Two different cases, if one is true, the other isn't.

what is also funny about this post is the teaming Choxorn/me when later on edse says that we're not scum together... yet?

Looks like town has mostly consolidated. This is not a bad thing, even though our situation is pretty bad atm.

The red in the tally is just for highlighting purpose, not indication of scum (I changed to underlining in the following posts)

You now have 5 votes Glossy, if I were scum and you town I could hammer the win :P
 
Everyone who is on my wagon is scum atm. :)

No one is hammering, unless scum is slow-rolling. That clears everyone else who either is on a different wagon or hasn't voted yet.
 
I think edse is town, since this slow-rolling business would be totally a terrible thing to do.

Everyone on my wagon is scum.

Well, I guess it makes it easy for town to win if we don't mess this day up.

Wow, that's some wacky game balance.
 
Shouldn't hammer be 7? Six is not a majority

it was said at start of day that it was 6.
meh

I clear edse, Zack, Cuth, choxorn.

dubious choice between landlubber and Lohrens, but I think it's more likely landlubber that is scum out of the two.
 
let me tell you why Lohrens is more likely town than landlubber.
Lohrens:
1. terribleness of explanations and refusal to elaborate on reads. That's generally not newbie scum behavior.
2. interactions with Lassie make Lassie look worse off, but Lassie flipped town. Probably v/v.
landlubber:
1. good explanations for reasoning, but very opportunistic voting. Vote timing shifts along with thread consensus.
2. interactions with Zack look suspect.
 
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