Atheists and attacking/vehemently questioning others' faith

[Katheryn]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

 

[Atlas14]

Atheistic faith is an oxymoron.

Faith that God doesn't exist?

 

[skadistic]

Do religions REALLY seem to be forcing their morals upon many of you?Yes. Many laws are religious based. Like marriage and stem cell legislation. Why should I be subject to what so religous dogma says is immoral?

Are these religions REALLY attacking your Atheistic faith?I don't have an ateistic faith. And yes they are attacking my choice to disregard religion in my life.

No. If you need to say something to that effect, then you have a very weak faith. If you think that religions are encroaching on your rights, then you are pitiful. They can make an equal argument against you as well.

So I'm pitiful because I don't want to be beholden to a faith I find unfounded and not worthy of my time? And no they can't say the same of me. I'm not telling them not to believe nor am I trying to pass laws that would go against their views. Not allowing dogma to rule the non-believer is not the same as forcing atheistic views on believers.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Fred said it.

I'd like to add a footnote to his point. If you reli-guys stay out of non-reli business like gay-marriage, stem cell research, politics, education, history before 6000 years ago etc. then I will solemly swear to not attack nor vehemently question others' faith.

 

[Atlas14]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

I agree some supposed Atheists simply jump on the bandwagon simply because it is "cool" or apparently the "smart person" thing to be associated with. However if you really think about it, if nobody told you God existed, and somone along the road certainly did, would you even think there was some greater being? Nobody is born believing in God, we have to be told, or as some might put it, brainwashed. There is no proof of teh existance of God, so we must be told, constantly, that he exists.

 

[Tycoon101]

So I'm pitiful because I don't want to be beholden to a faith I find unfounded and not worthy of my time? And no they can't say the same of me. I'm not telling them not to believe nor am I trying to pass laws that would go against their views. Not allowing dogma to rule the non-believer is not the same as forcing atheistic views on believers.

How is religious dogma ruling you? You should just move if you disagree with the country's laws.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

Faith that God doesn't exist?

Do you have faith that santa claus doesn't exist? What about mother goose?

It is just that I have no belief about them.

 

[El_Machinae]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

No need to lump all atheists together. I was raised Christian. My beliefs regarding the Christian faiths is as a result of direct contact with the ideas of the Bible and their Christian interpretation.

I will never deny that the concepts of morality and spirituality exist. I will deny that the Christian interpretation of those effects are true. Mainly because I have been exposed to both interpretations, critically examined them, and rejected the set that doesn't jive with reality.

I am only aggressive against religious faith in the matters that seem to negatively affect me (which is, of course, fair).

 

[Atlas14]

Do you have faith that santa claus doesn't exist? What about mother goose?

It is just that I have no belief about them.

It is essentially the same thing.

 

[warpus]

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

Right, the liberal media has brainwashed me into thinking that there is no such thing as morality.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[warpus]

It is essentially the same thing.

Not believing that the tooth fairy exists is a faith and can be classified as a religion?

Nontoothfairism?

 

[JollyRoger]

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

I don't need to believe in ancient myths to have morals.

 

[skadistic]

How is religious dogma ruling you? You should just move if you disagree with the country's laws.

Religous dogma rules many parts of my life against my wishes.

And your agument that I should move is just about as stupid as you can get. I live in what is by law a secular nation that has illegaly been taken over by christianity. I'm realy getting sick of people saying things like if you don't like it move. If I don't like I should speak up and try to change it. But in America I am grossly outnumbered and the powers that be answer to a non-exsistant god before what they should and that is the law.

 

[Truronian]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

I have not been told this.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

Do religious people hold the patent on morality? (I'm good without the others) I must have missed the memo.

 

[Atlas14]

Not believing that the tooth fairy exists is a faith and can be classified as a religion?

Nontoothfairism?

Well, technically no because there is no object of worship. But it seems everything is stretched nowdays to fit the definition of "religion".

 

[El_Machinae]

I actually agree that some forms of atheism could be deigned to be a form of faith. I would suspect that this is more true for those who had an alternate faith previously and consciously discarded it (probably after childhood)

 

[skadistic]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

I was raised catholic and went to catholic school. I watch FOX news. I came to the conclusion that there is no spirituality or redemption though critical thinking. Morality is not solely beholden to the religous. I've never believed in god. The church attempted to brainwash me for years.

 

[nonconformist]

Atheists have been told by people they trust that those who believe in religion are stupid, weak and backward.

They are free to express that view, but those of us who are 'religious' will feel the need to explain why the atheists have been brainwashed (by the liberal education system/media/etc) to believe there is no such thing as morality, spirituality, and redemption.

'Sup guyz?

 

[Kozmos]

I myself believe in a mix of 2 religions. Flying Spaghetti Monsterism and Invisible Pink Unicornism.

Fo' real, Religion is nothing but a pain in the ass for us nonbelievers.

 

[ironduck]

The notion put forward by certain posters in this thread that morality relies on religion, and that non-religious people (such as myself) therefore have no morality, is exactly one of the main reasons non-religious people at times get irrirated.

It is an incredibly arrogant concept to espouse. In essence, people who claim it are in effect saying that they are superior to those who do not agree with them.

edit - noncon, who's that?