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[Borachio]

No. He's, iirc, in the Cotswolds.

Which is pretty much as Middle England as you can get.

Nice, though.

 

[Arakhor]

Borachio's right. Rather wet and very hilly, but not generally very windy.

 

[Kyriakos]

Borachio's right. Rather wet and very hilly, but not generally very windy.

Is that a suburb, then? Looks nice, but not really like part of the city

Wait... It isn't near London at all. Apparently it is near Bath. Well yeah, i'd expect that to be almost entirely british.

 

[warpus]

We're on the internet, if someone says "Asian", they can expect most people to understand "Someone from Asia" and not your own local pecularities that are associated with the term or whatever

 

[Arakhor]

We're on the internet, if someone says "Asian", they can expect most people to understand "Someone from Asia" and not your own local pecularities that are associated with the term or whatever

A) We're in a British-themed thread.
B) Someone tell the Americans that.
C) That's the entire Internet in a nutshell.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

C) They are from Asia (or at least their family was, not very many generations back).

 

[warpus]

Arakhor, point taken, but when I hear "European" I think "Someone from Europe" and the other continents work the same way in my brain. I've also talked to many North Americans who take a similar approach, nobody ever seems to get confused when I consider Indians or Syrians Asian. It seems to be mainly confusing from an official census type of POV, so say there is a map showing American ethnic groups, people assume that "Asian" means "East Asian" because that's how the government officially segregates these groups or whatever. But in everyday speech, from my experience at least, people have no issue understanding that "Asian" means "someone from Asia", except for those with a super low understanding of geography or maybe the on purpose daft

Plus I'm a stickler for accurate terms and such

 

[Akka]

TBH, I don't think I ever heard anyone calling a Syrian an Asian, even if it's technically correct.

 

[warpus]

It almost never happens because referring to them as "middle easteners" makes more sense, in the same way calling me European makes more sense than calling me Eurasian. But if someone's saying "Out of all the Asians in the world, which ones are more likely to eat hummus?".. which granted almost never happens.. but when it does..

 

[Kyriakos]

Syria is in the near east. Sometimes termed as the levant as well. Though the term "middle east" is used almost exclusively afaik by US media outlets for pretty much anything from Egypt (Africa) to borders of India (its own subcontinent, really).

 

[warpus]

If Syria isn't in the middle east, then nothing is

 

[Kyriakos]

If Syria isn't in the middle east, then nothing is

Well, ok, but what is so middle about that east? It is only "middle" if the east starts at Poland Syria is on the absolute western edge of Asia.

 

[Akka]

If Syria isn't in the middle east, then nothing is

Well, actually Syria is part of the "Near East". It's just that said Near East has fallen out of use, and been more or less entirely replaced by "Middle-East".

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, actually Syria is part of the "Near East". It's just that said Near East has fallen out of use, and been more or less entirely replaced by "Middle-East".

Are you ignoring posts by your fellow eu member peoples?

 

[Akka]

No, it's just that the whole denomination of the region is a mess (it's technically BOTH "Near East" and "Middle-East", it's just that one is an European expression, and the other an US one).

 

[warpus]

Well, ok, but what is so middle about that east? It is only "middle" if the east starts at Poland Syria is on the absolute western edge of Asia.

I mean, what's so "mid-west" about Chicago? And what's not at all south about southern California? These labels don't necessarily have to be literally geographically correct.

I guess I did assume that "middle east" is a common saying on both sides of the pond. It isn't?

 

[Borachio]

You won't hear the Near East referred to in the UK. Certainly not recently, at any rate.

But Proche-Orient is pretty common in the Francophonie, I'm guessing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Easthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_East

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proche-Orient

 

[Kyriakos]

I mean, what's so "mid-west" about Chicago? And what's not at all south about southern California? These labels don't necessarily have to be literally geographically correct.

I guess I did assume that "middle east" is a common saying on both sides of the pond. It isn't?

Usually here people use the (analogous in greek) term for 'near east', for anything starting in Anatolia and reaching up to Jordan. The region tends to contain the countries of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, (Turkey, the asian part), Israel, and sometimes Egypt. It is in virtual tautology with the term for "the Levant" (which always includes Egypt), itself a non-greek term, but used in greek since at least the 4rth crusade. Eg a mocking term for people in the Byzantine Empire who wanted to ally from weaker positions with the western powers was "franco-levantine". Term still exists.
Although Asia minor itself is usually just termed as that. "Mikra Asia".

 

[W|M]

I mean, what's so "mid-west" about Chicago? And what's not at all south about southern California? These labels don't necessarily have to be literally geographically correct.

I guess I did assume that "middle east" is a common saying on both sides of the pond. It isn't?

I like it when Americans talk about ''The South'' because ''The South'' is thousands of km north of me

Middle-East is common in the UK, and Oriente Médio (meaning Middle Orient) is used in Brazilian Portuguese

 

[sophie]

Well directionality is all relative, innit?

Why is Japan "The land of the Rising Sun" when the island lies directly to the West of me?

Oriente medio is also an amusing term: towards where [the sun] rises in the middle