Betting and Speculation - The "Entirely Separate Hypercube" Civ!

[TheMarshmallowBear]

We will have to find out when they reveal, for all we know none of the speculations are true, or we're simply misinformed.

 

[Scaramanga]

Of course. To be honest I meant the "Collective Rule" policy - or a part of the branch. Not all of Liberty. Since it was pointed out that Japan doesn't gain anything from Populism, though, then it isn't unprecedented.

Or, no one gains anything from United Front if there are no Militraristic city-states on the map. Happens to me once in a while.

 

[kingchris20]

I was thinking of something... What if Venice, for some reason, starts landlocked? It means they can't build a single galleass, because their other cities are puppets. Is it correct to assume the Venetian puppets might buy units too?

And stuff like this is why I don't think that its true about not being able to found cities.

 

[kaspergm]

They would have a coastal start bias, obviously. That's not a problem.

 

[moysturfurmer]

"Leader: Pocatello
Unique Ability: Founded cities start with additional territory. Units receive a combat bonus when fighting in friendly territory.
Unique Unit 1: Pathfinder; Replaces Scout. It has 8 combat, costs 30 p, allows you to choose ancient ruin bonus
Unique Unit 2: Comanche Riders; Replaces Cavalry. 134 p, it seems to have 4 movement like Cavalry but has an ability that gives +1 movement, the explanation says they have quick attacks."

(I don't understand why the thread was wiped without a trace. It should have been locked, its first post edited and an explanation provided.)

Did you save the text for Venice too?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

"Leader: Pocatello
Unique Ability: Founded cities start with additional territory. Units receive a combat bonus when fighting in friendly territory.
Unique Unit 1: Pathfinder; Replaces Scout. It has 8 combat, costs 30 p, allows you to choose ancient ruin bonus
Unique Unit 2: Comanche Riders; Replaces Cavalry. 134 p, it seems to have 4 movement like Cavalry but has an ability that gives +1 movement, the explanation says they have quick attacks."

(I don't understand why the thread was wiped without a trace. It should have been locked, its first post edited and an explanation provided.)

That Pathfinder. Wow. Can I pick free tech for each ruin? I assume it will be like the Mayan Long Count where you can only pick each type once.

 

[ImperialChaos]

My dream of playing Venice on a land-only map is over

Venice was always going to get some sort of Naval bonus; we just don't know how.

 

[kaspergm]

Also, seeing the discussion about Venice, I can't help but link to a post by ImperialChaos in the Funny Screenshots section, in case someone doesn't read that thread.

That Pathfinder. Wow. Can I pick free tech for each ruin? I assume it will be like the Mayan Long Count where you can only pick each type once.

That's a good hypothesis actually, they almost certainly would do it like that.

 

[kingchris20]

They would have a coastal start bias, obviously. That's not a problem.

Coastal start bias is not fool proof by any means, you most certainly do not start on the coast every time.

That said you would probably start near enough to the coast (if not on the coast) to be able to move to it if you desired to.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Bias have a good chance of failing, I had numerous starts with Boudicca having NO nearby forest tiles for ages.

Also, the fact of the matter is Merchants aren't "Ships" are they now? (Unless I'm missing something here).

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Everybody is talking about Venice, but the Shoshone stuff looks prett damn sweet too.

 

[m15a]

My dream of playing Venice on a land-only map is over

Venice was always going to get some sort of Naval bonus; we just don't know how.

why can't you play venice on a land-only map? sounds better than carthage. (i'd never play carthage on a land-only map either, but that was never a dream of mine . . )

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I'm wondering if the Scout's ability to pick any ruiins will work similary to the Mayan Calendar, that you can't pick the same bonus twice unless you ran out.

 

[Dragonflow]

Everybody is talking about Venice, but the Shoshone stuff looks prett damn sweet too.

We're still figuring out whether or not Venice will be good or bad.

 

[Distinct]

That Pathfinder. Wow. Can I pick free tech for each ruin? I assume it will be like the Mayan Long Count where you can only pick each type once.

Do you think that you'll be able to just pick any, though? Isn't there something that makes sure that everyone doesn't get the Faith ruins, in normal play?

I mean, if that doesn't apply, first priority would be the Faith bonus; you'd get a religion before Ethiopia and Celts, even.

Then, I guess a tech.

Once you were completely done with ruins, it'd probably be smart just to make it a super-strong archer.

 

[ImperialChaos]

why can't you play venice on a land-only map? sounds better than carthage. (i'd never play carthage on a land-only map either, but that was never a dream of mine . . )

I was being sarcastic . Venice (a naval empire) is strange to play on landlocked maps. Just as Mongolia (large contiguous land empire) would be strange to play on an archipelago map. To me, at least.

Also, seeing the discussion about Venice, I can't help but link to a post by ImperialChaos in the Funny Screenshots section, in case someone doesn't read that thread.


That's a good hypothesis actually, they almost certainly would do it like that.

Wow. It's even more true if that UA is real (barring Polynesia.)

 

[InsanelyApple]

I saw the original thread and saved its contents. Actually, I have it open right now, I never closed the page.

Screenshot it in case you accidentally close it or the power goes out. Don't lose the precious!

 

[Calouste]

That Pathfinder. Wow. Can I pick free tech for each ruin? I assume it will be like the Mayan Long Count where you can only pick each type once.

Or the other possibility would be that you get a choice of two or three at random. In any case, I wouldn't always pick the free tech. 20 to get that first policy really early, or a free Pantheon or a population increase are also good options depending on the circumstances. The latter specially, because you'll start with more tiles available to work, which likely means more good tiles available to work.

 

[m15a]

I was being sarcastic . Venice (a naval empire) is strange to play on landlocked maps. Just as Mongolia (large contiguous land empire) would be strange to play on an archipelago map. To me, at least.

oh, good. i was starting to feel sorry for you. kind of a sad dream to have.

i don't know why not being able to build a unique unit is a big deal. can happen with a lot of existing civs already.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there were posters in firaxis hq in a video of BNW leaders and unique units. They'd turned over the posters of the unrevealed civs, at the time including Indonesia and morocco. There were 5 unique units supposedly hidden, minus the kris swordsman and Berber cavalry that leaves 3 for the remaining 2 and doesn't fit with these supposed builds..,