Boomers: The Evil Generation!

Boomers are like those gatecrashers who trash a party and leave before cleanup. They will be remembered as the generation that should have known better, but didn't. There has to be a time when "they were a man of their times" stops being a defense of bigotry and myopia, and the boomers are past it.
Just in case you didn't know, it was the boomers that overturned the racist, sexist and religious orientation of the US and laid the ground work for all the ideas near and dear to the modern world. the fact that most of the WW2 Generation and many boomers object to those changes does not change the facts that those changes would not have happened without the hard fought cultural battles of the 60s and 70s. Like it or not, the boomers of the US and Western Europe dismantled the cultural straight jacket of previous generations. Jeans for everyday wear, sneakers, T shirts not white, hair anyway you want in any color you want, casual, casual and more casual, non Christian religions acceptable, yoga, running, jogging and cycling, clean air and water, personal computers, divorce is OK, expansion of courses offered by colleges, etc. The boomers were such a huge group that when we did all those things, they were accepted and integrated. Our parents could not stand the onslaught.
 
it is interesting that already in 2015 a fifth of the 65+ people are getting news "often" from the internet. I would take people who claim they don't go on Twitter for politics with a big grain of salt. Most people I think do not really think clearly about what "politics" really means. I would guess that most of those people who don't do any politics on social media actually do a lot of politics on social media. But of course that's just a guess.
Boomer's kid: Mom/Dad, you should get online, you'd find out a lot more about what's going on than you can in a newspaper or on TV.

Parent: Ok, what do you suggest?

Boomer's kid: Social media, here, I'll help you set up a Facebook and Twitter account.

Parent (reading all the crap): Wow, so much I didn't know, this is great!


And then there are those of us who know that like Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything on FB/Twitter is <organic waste material> (actually, had he lived into the internet age, he'd have revised that 90% considerably upward). I get my news from CBC.ca as it's just the online extension of the news I watched on TV for decades. I don't get the newspaper anymore because it's too expensive and delivery here is unreliable. The online edition costs more than the print edition, if you can believe that. I take most things said on FB with a freight train's worth of NaCl.

Consider another reason why some older people get news online: Failing eyesight. It's a lot easier to read a news article or comment section online since you can adjust everything for reading comfort.

I can easily imagine one getting one's news from "traditional sources" but still having one's brain melted in comment sections and those weird grammatically-incorrect chain posts that older people seem to really enjoy.
Care to link to a sample of this "grammatically-incorrect chain posts that older people seem to really enjoy"? I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm apparently one of these "older people" who really enjoys them.

But yeah, comment sections can be brain-melting, particularly when they accompany an article that started the process (I've been on CBC.ca most of the day, mindcroggled at what's going on in our provincial election).

if you're in your mid-50s just getting on Facebook for the first time in, say, 2017, you just don't have the depth of experience with the platform to be able to chock stuff up to the platform being a bit stupid.
I'll admit that I don't understand most of what Facebook does, as I believe that if my RL friends want to have a conversation with me, they can send an email or better yet, pick up the damn phone.

And I think I'm reasonably adept at spotting a scam. They've been around for millennia. It's amazing how so many younger people don't seem to realize that there was a world that existed before the internet and that much of what they think is new and radical has actually been a case of "been there, done that decades/centuries ago".

Boomers are like those gatecrashers who trash a party and leave before cleanup. They will be remembered as the generation that should have known better, but didn't. There has to be a time when "they were a man of their times" stops being a defense of bigotry and myopia, and the boomers are past it.
Oh, thank you SO much. :huh:

Everyone should realize that being a boomer isn't a sin or a crime.
You wouldn't know that by some of the comments here. There's a saying that was popular when I was a teenager: "Excuse me for living, but the graveyard's full."

In other words, we're not done yet. Wait your turn.

Is that like upism and downism?
 
Many of the better parts have been kept then taken for granted by those who have experienced them as a given. And some parts have been rolled back. Hippies are disgusting degenerates. :mischief:
 
Care to link to a sample of this "grammatically-incorrect chain posts that older people seem to really enjoy"?

Nah, I'm mostly just kidding. But think the Facebook post version of political chain emails.

And I think I'm reasonably adept at spotting a scam. They've been around for millennia. It's amazing how so many younger people don't seem to realize that there was a world that existed before the internet and that much of what they think is new and radical has actually been a case of "been there, done that decades/centuries ago".

I'm not talking about the ability to recognize outright scams. I'm talking more, I guess, about the ability (or lack thereof) to properly contextualize what one sees on Facebook and other social media. I don't think this is necessarily limited to Boomers, because I think the high rates of depression among young people who heavily use social media may reflect a similar inability to contextualize, but in the case of Boomers it appears to be a problem with more acute political effects.
 
Clearly you've never stepped outside. Humans have myriad instincts, laws, and customs that govern every interaction.

And you see this as being identical with the proposition that "encountering other human beings is by definition a violent and traumatic experience"??

In the current year, that distinction is only theoretical.

It isn't, not remotely, but "leftism" in the context of this discussion we're having is clearly a transhistorical phenomenon, not something that is bound to the current year. Additionally, (perhaps amusingly) the piece you linked to was not even written in the current year!

Gnosticism has usually drawn pretty heavily on the New Testament. You could almost describe the relationship as parasitic. Of course it is opposed to orthodox Christianity, but I think it's fair to say that it takes from Christian themes (e.g. Jesus's familiarity with prostitutes is emphasized as a rejection of Old Testament judgmentalism, but his teaching on marriage is ignored).

I think it is fair, too, I'm just saying that piece is nothing like an overview of historical continuities between Christian thought and practice and leftist thought and practice. Sad because such a piece could make for interesting reading.
 
I don't believe humans naturally desire power beyond their village, and I only mentioned a village as an example of what I regard as a healthy-sized community.
99% of human history says otherwise.....
 
7 pages in one day got damn!


I read the literal book on this narrative (yes there's a blame the boomers book). It's BS. My parents used to complain the same problems were persisting because the generations before them still had power. And I don't see my generation changing the basic foundations of the problem, almost entirely of which are products of literally the Republican Party and nothing else.
 
7 pages in one day got damn!


I read the literal book on this narrative (yes there's a blame the boomers book). It's BS. My parents used to complain the same problems were persisting because the generations before them still had power. And I don't see my generation changing the basic foundations of the problem, almost entirely of which are products of literally the Republican Party and nothing else.

Yea for all my hyperbole on the topic and the fun that ensues. This is largely just because personally every boomer I know supports the republicans since Obama. I know these people and extend that to what I call level two racism. I also get annoyed at how they like to blame millennials for everything wrong in the world.
 
Hippies?
 
And you see this as being identical with the proposition that "encountering other human beings is by definition a violent and traumatic experience"??

Not quite. I think that every human encounter has the potential to be violent and traumatic without safeguards, and hierarchy is one of the most powerful.

It isn't, not remotely, but "leftism" in the context of this discussion we're having is clearly a transhistorical phenomenon,

I'm pretty sure that this discussion was about contemporary leftism?

not something that is bound to the current year. Additionally, (perhaps amusingly) the piece you linked to was not even written in the current year!

...it's an expression.
 
I stand by my comments on the sociological voting bloc that are the boomers.

Unfortunately they will continue to destroy the planet, their generations dying spasms desperately trying to hold onto a system that is changing...
 
I'm pretty sure that this discussion was about contemporary leftism?

The problem is, regardless of whether you have "the time" to be intellectually cognitive of the fact or not, there is no "leftism" - whether contemporary or past - it's a myth. It would improve your credibility and respectability in your posts to desist using the term and use terms appropriate and more specific and accurate to the subject of what you're addressing.
 
I stand by my comments on the sociological voting bloc that are the boomers.

Unfortunately they will continue to destroy the planet, their generations dying spasms desperately trying to hold onto a system that is changing...

It is unfortunate that, you, have, like several others on this thread, abdicated thinking.
 
I stand by my comments on the sociological voting bloc that are the boomers.
As long as you don't mind being told you're wrong, by one of the people in the demographic you and some others have been busy denigrating in this thread.

Unfortunately they will continue to destroy the planet, their generations dying spasms desperately trying to hold onto a system that is changing...
Oh, do tell me how I've destroyed the planet. Please. Since things have become contentious, however, feel free to drop a PM and let me know.
 
Just a shame that so many of your generation aren't like you and at worst are actively enabling policies and political parties that are against your (and their own) interests

If there were more good boomers over those that have embraced the "screw you, got mine" attitude I'd be less hostile to your argument however...
 
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