Border Wall not Catapult Tall.

[MobBoss]

Drug violence is caused by drugs being illegal.

And said violent criminals would just find something else to be violent about while we would have to deal with the ramifications of horribly destructive drugs like methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin being legal.

Nice solution.

Want to get rid of violence? Do something about the people perpetrating it.

As to the catapult/border wall thingy...solution is easy. Just put a Phalanx along the border every so often and set them to blow the crap out of anything flyng low over the fence. brraaaapp....

 

[Formaldehyde]

Want to get rid of violence? Do something about the people perpetrating it.

You really want to get rid of violence in our current society?

Does that mean we need to disband the offensive nature of our current military, as well as crack down on all the extremists who demand violent solutions to most of our problems? And how about violent sports such as football and ice hockey? Right out?

As to the catapult/border wall thingy...solution is easy. Just put a Phalanx along the border and set it to blow the crap out of anything flyng low over the fence. brraaaapp....

What a violent solution to an essentially non-violent problem...

 

[Japanrocks12]

And said violent criminals would just find something else to be violent about

This is not obvious for me. It makes more sense that most drug lords are drug lords given the lucrative nature of the business, with a few violent sociopaths thrown in on the side. You legalize drugs, you remove a lucrative business.

 

[MobBoss]

You really want to get rid of violence in our current society?

Well, I view it kind of like discrimination....you'll never get rid of it all, but you do what you can.

Does that mean we need to disband the offensive nature of our current military

as well as crack down on all the extremists who demand violent solutions to most of our problems? And how about violent sports such as football and ice hockey? Right out?

And here I thought we were referring to criminal violence. Darn.

What a violent solution to an essentially non-violent problem...

I dont really think blowing the heck out of a package of drugs flying over a fence as 'violent', but to each his own I guess.

This is not obvious for me. It makes more sense that most drug lords are drug lords given the lucrative nature of the business, with a few violent sociopaths thrown in on the side. You legalize drugs, you remove a lucrative business.

And those drug lords and violent sociopaths will see the error of their ways and just get regular 9 to 5 jobs and be regular citizens?

Of course they will.

 

[say1988]

Drug related crime primarily falls into two categories:

1) Users trying to get the money to pay for the next dose. Theft is often the easiest means to do so, and if someone gets in their way, particularly when high, violence can ensue. By making drugs cheaper (and the largest cost is due to anti-drug enforcement) and socially acceptable (like alcohol) these crimes would be minimized. Further, this would help keep casual users from getting mixed in with the hardcore users, which they almost have to now in order to keep supplied.

2) Suppliers fighting over highly profitable distribution chains and territory. Many of these people will likely try to focus on other areas of crime, but by taking away one of the most lucrative profit centres, it will decrease their ability and their attaction.

The idea that people are hardwired for crime is a joke.

 

[MobBoss]

The idea that people are hardwired for crime is a joke.

Not for crime. For violence. And its more complicated than to just say they are 'hardwired', as it involves a lot more than just that.

But career criminals dont change their ways very often do they? And thats the demograph we are referring to. Lets all at least be honest and agree on that.

 

[say1988]

No, you aren't going to suddenly convert current career criminals. And it has been shown how inneffective current methods are. The best option is to target the next generation. Remove their motivation to join the cartels as it isn't profitable. And keep future users (and there will also be plenty of users) from having to resort to crime.

We simply can't do anything about now, we must look to the future.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Well, I view it kind of like discrimination....you'll never get rid of it all, but you do what you can.

Then I think you should start much closer to home. A good example was suggesting the use of a Phalanx along the border.

And here I thought we were referring to criminal violence. Darn.

So you don't think that violence in general is a problem? Just when it is done by "criminals"?

 

[MobBoss]

Then I think you should start much closer to home. A good example was suggesting the use of a Phalanx along the border.

Humor. Its a concept. Also, the threat of violence isnt the same as the actual act of violence. Eh?

 

[Gangor]

Why go to all the cost of operating gunboats? Just fill it with sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads,


Or move it south. Then they won't be immigrants.

Monroe already did that

 

[BuckyRea]

Monroe already did that

Polk, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about.

 

[Thoughtful Thug]

So is this wall really a good investment?

Probably made some people rich building these walls. And jobs...


Link to video.

 

[Rashiminos]

It used to be that when someone starting launching things to the other side of walls, it was an act of war, which would evoke at least a proportionate response. Will this day not get its life in infamy?

 

[Formaldehyde]

Humor.

It's funny how often your "humor" seems to involve violence.

 

[MobBoss]

It's funny how often your "humor" seems to involve violence.

What violence? I said they could be used to shoot packets of drugs being thrown over the fence, not babies.

Let me guess, I bet you think plinking a rifle at some bottles or cans is also 'violence in action'?

 

[say1988]

It used to be that when someone starting launching things to the other side of walls, it was an act of war, which would evoke at least a proportionate response. Will this day not get its life in infamy?

Nixon declared war in 1971. And the agressive actions have all been costly failures. The whole policy needs to be changed, since it is clera the current one is a complete failure.

 

[Rashiminos]

He declared War on drugs, not The Drugapults.

 

[JollyRoger]

Want to get rid of violence? Do something about the people perpetrating it.

Disband the military?

 

[Formaldehyde]

What violence?

It doesn't mean what you apparently think it does.

 

[Abaddon]

Why not just grow the weed in the US?