conceding residence (colonisation settlement) rights to the EU nationals already in the UK
This is an especially grotesque analogy for someone from England to make, no matter how drunk on self pity they are.
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conceding residence (colonisation settlement) rights to the EU nationals already in the UK
I haven't kept count, but yes. I'd say the entire island, even today, given the amounts of people who cross the border every day, either them or the goods they trade across it.That is to say, it's what the UK has reaffirmed in regards to Northern Ireland, for the eleventh or twelfth time since 1169.
This is an especially grotesque analogy for someone from England to make, no matter how drunk on self pity they are.
Not deporting people who already live here is "colonisation"? Jesus Christ.
Is it? Funny, there was a time when the "left" stood for national liberation, self-determination for each people (understood as the natives of the territory). And called for the "settlers", many of whom born in those territories, to be forcibly and violently removed from said territories upon independence.
Now the "left", we are told, is supposed to stand for the end of national independence and indeed "forced colonization": an obligation to take in foreigners without any limits. This is crap and people recognize it as such. That is why you get brexit. That is why Labour in the UK is failing: because they cannot sort out their internal divisions and eject the "citizens of nowhere" from the party. May is cleaning up the Tories. Labour needs a clean-up also.
Even today the contradiction within discourses is glaring. The SNP demands independence for Scotland, under the principle of... what? National self-determination? That means the people of Scotland should have sovereignty over the territory of Scotland - which excludes pacts such as the EU, and requires a clear definition of who is part of the "people of Scotland". Or perhaps it is just a "we're better of economically as [independent, part of the EU] (which is it?). Even so, who is "we"? The SNP won't tell you. So they're sinking in their own contradictions.
Labour's leadership (nor all its MP...) calls for new economic polices. But everyone knows those polices would not be "allowed" under EU rules that limit state aid (or would be allowed only as they are for Germany and France: they're "special"...). But because it is too divisive to say "either the EU changes or we support leaving" they're unable to campaign, they can't put forth a credible and coherent programme! This is folly.
Also, I'm pretty sure Labour does best in the areas with lots of migrants (ie, London) and worst in the areas with hardly any (ie, the countryside)? Like I could be wrong but isn't it the empty boring bits of England that vote Tory and Kipper, and the big cities which don't?
Which if migration was really "colonisation imposed by rootless cosmopolitans" or whatever, and if Labour's troubles were really explained by a nativist revolt against their conspiracy to impose swarthy/accented domination, would be an odd pattern to emerge. Surely if this were the case, the people most exposed to the terrible threat of a Raj run by Polish cleaners, Pakistani taxi drivers and Australian bar staff would be the ones voting against their dastardly would-be colonial masters.
The whole thing just reminds me of a girl in at my high school in the small, conservative-voting town where I grew. She told me, after I got a place in a university in Sydney, that she could never live in Sydney because there's too many Chinese people. Folks who aren't actually exposed to migrants often seem to be the most against 'em and to vote accordingly.
Migration into the UK under UK policy isn't "colonisation of the UK".
There is typically a distinction between migration and colonisation.
But when foreign countries seek to impose migration targets or require unlimited migration and/or impose their laws, it is very close to colonisation.
Like what Australia was colonised by people from these islands.
But when foreign countries seek to impose migration targets or require unlimited migration and/or impose their laws, it is very close to colonisation.
There is typically a distinction between migration and colonisation.
But when foreign countries seek to impose migration targets or require unlimited migration and/or impose their laws, it is very close to colonisation.
Like what Australia was colonised by people from these islands.
Norwegians are likely to nix that, and besides, in the EEA you get to implement the EU rules and regulation in order to benefit from the internal market, and you pay a fee more or less what the UK already paid as a member. You just have not vote or say. You don't HAVE to, in some grand existential sense, just if you want to access the EU market.I thought EEA was their go-to solution in the first place, so I'm not seeing what exactly is he recommending here that is new or beneficial for the UK.
The Swiss solution might be better for the UK.
The UK actually opened its gates when everybody else told them it was too soon. And they then complain about there being too many poles takin' er jerbs.Please list all EU "migration targets" for the UK at any time in the last 40 years. Hell, list any "migration target" imposed by the EU.