CALIFORNIA BROKE? State Could Run Out Of Money In Two Months, Says Official

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg emerged from the initial round of discussions and told reporters the talks had been positive. Less than a week ago, Schwarzenegger had threatened to veto the Democratic budget plan that is the basis for the current discussions.

"We're all very committed to making an $18 billion dent into this problem before the end of the year," said Steinberg, D-Sacramento. "That's our obligation."

Steinberg said he hoped leaders could reach a deal by the end of the week and planned to resume talks Friday, likely by teleconference because the governor had left California for the Christmas holiday. He said a legislative vote on a compromise could come next week.

The Democratic plan would begin to address the deficit with $9.3 billion in tax and fee increases, $7.3 billion in cuts and another $1.5 billion in labor concessions, court rollbacks and other moves.

Republicans oppose it because of the tax increases. Last week, Schwarzenegger said he would veto it because it failed to include sufficient measures to stimulate the state's economy.

But California's ballooning deficit _ projected to hit $42 billion over the next 18 months _ is leading to severe consequences that have forced Schwarzenegger and Democrats to act quickly.

On Monday, the state controller warned that California will run out of cash within 70 days if lawmakers don't act quickly to bridge the growing divide between revenue and spending.
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Steinberg said he and Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, were willing to give Schwarzenegger more of what he wanted. That could include making concessions on labor rules and environmental regulations to accelerate work on infrastructure projects, agreeing to build more toll roads in the state and expanding help to homeowners facing foreclosure.

The Democratic leaders said they also were trying to accommodate the governor's demands for additional spending cuts, including eliminating two of 14 paid state holidays. Doing so would save an estimated $114 million during this fiscal year and the next one, mostly in overtime costs.

Republicans did not participate in Tuesday's budget negotiations.

Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill, R-Modesto, said Republicans would return to the Capitol if a deal were to be reached but said his caucus remained opposed to the package. He and other Republicans believe it is illegal because it contains tax increases yet was passed without a two-thirds vote in the Legislature.

"There's nothing for us to talk about today," said Cogdill, strolling through the Capitol in jeans and a leather jacket.

Anti-tax groups have vowed to sue if Schwarzenegger signs the plan, challenging its legality. Proposition 13, passed by voters 30 years ago, requires a two-thirds vote by lawmakers to raise taxes.

Democrats say they have found a way to get around the two-thirds requirement by claiming their $18 billion plan does not technically increase the amount of taxes on Californians.

Instead, they say it eliminates gas taxes and replaces them with a variety of other charges, including raising the state sales tax by three-quarters of a percentage point, boosting personal income taxes by 2.5 percent, taxing companies that extract oil from California and collecting taxes from independent contractors upfront.

It then replaces the gas taxes with what Democrats call a gasoline fee that would go solely to transportation projects. Because the fee is dedicated to a single purpose, it does not require a two-thirds vote, Democrats say.

Schwarzenegger has said it is necessary to raise taxes, but his opinion about the method contained in the Democratic plan is uncertain. Last week, he called the Democrats' proposal a "terrible budget" that would "punish the people of California." And in a meeting with local leaders in the Central Valley last week, he said their plan included "illegal taxes."

It was not clear Tuesday why the governor had decided to negotiate on a plan that only days ago he said contained provisions that were not legal. His spokesman, Aaron McLear, said Schwarzenegger would not sign anything that is illegal.

After meeting with the Democratic leaders, Schwarzenegger was asked whether he would sign a budget plan that contained tax increases but was passed only by a simple-majority vote.

"I prefer having my Republican friends at the table, and I prefer to get a two-thirds vote. But we do need revenue increases," he said. "To save California, I'm forced to negotiate just with the Democrats. This is the situation I am forced in because of lack of participation by the Republicans."

Schwarzenegger said he would let others debate the plan's legality, ultimately deciding "what is a fee and what is a tax?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/23/california-broke-state-co_n_153022.html

I'm really pissed about this. I'm a senior in high school in California and I may not have my senior prom. :mad: But seriously, discuss. How could the richest state of the Union fall so low?
 
Hey hey, I'm not as poor as I thought.
 
I blame Prop 13.

Well, they spend more than they take in...
It is almost impossible to raise taxes in California. It requires a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes and the Republicans refuse to vote for a tax increase.
 
I blame Prop 13.


It is almost impossible to raise taxes in California. It requires a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes and the Republicans refuse to vote for a tax increase.

How about spending less, instead of raising the taxes?
 
I'm a senior in high school in California and I may not have my senior prom.

The State pays for your prom?

Lots of spending may be causing the budget problems... just a guess.

Of course, a bunch of legislators refusing to consider each other's suggestions doesn't help much.
 
A 42B$ deficit because of a shortfall in revenues (i.e. economic crisis) or an increase in spending (i.e. economic stimuli)?
 
Don't worry - a substantial portion of the Obama stimulus will be in the form of loans to the states.
 
Is there some legal reason why states cannot run deficits like the Federal Government?
 
It requires a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes and the Republicans refuse to vote for a tax increase.
Well, I don't know how you managed it, but California has the 6th highest state tax burden in the U.S.

I don't think making it #1 is going to solve your fiscal problems.
 
Is there some legal reason why states cannot run deficits like the Federal Government?

Many (most?) states have passed balanced-budget amendments.

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The Nature of State Balanced Budget Requirements
Some states have strict, explicit balanced budget requirements that force policy makers to ensure that expenditures in a fiscal year are within the cash available for that fiscal year. In other states, the requirement is derived from a constitutional limitation of state indebtedness or some other budgetary provision such as Virginia's constitutional requirement that the governor keep spending within revenues, and may lack a binding enforcement mechanism. In some states, of which Michigan is an example, constitutional provisions that are designed to prevent budget deficits allow unavoidable deficits to be carried to the next fiscal year for resolution. Vermont , uniquely, has no constitutional or statutory requirement for a balanced budget.

Not all states have constitutional language that clearly requires a balanced budget and many even lack explicit statutory requirements. The General Accounting Office has commented that "some balanced budget requirements are based on interpretations of state constitutions and statutes rather than on an explicit statement that the state must have a balanced budget." GAO's observation is supported by appendix B, which prints the language that legislative staff in 49 states have identified as the constitutional and statutory balanced budget requirement. The link between the constitutional or statutory language and a balanced-budget requirement can be obscure.

Whatever the source of the requirement-constitutional, statutory, or traditional interpretation-there are three general kinds of balanced-budget requirements, with differences of detail within each kind:

1. The governor's proposed budget must be balanced;
2. The enacted budget must be balanced;
3. The budget must be balanced at the end of a fiscal year or biennium (no deficit can be carried forward).
from the National Conference of State Legislatures
 
thats why CA need a Democratic govenor
 
thats why CA need a Democratic govenor
No, Arnold's cool, and he is fairly moderate. The problem with California is the budget is a disaster. The Republicans won't raise taxes to pay for programs and the Democrats won't cut programs to reduce spending. Also, ******** gerrymandering means it going to stay that way (Although were finally getting a committee to draw districts, yay!).
 
How will eliminating gerrymandering change things?

Serious question.
 
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