Can you remove fear from summoned Tigers?

[Breunor]

I'm playing on a large map, .41D, with the Ljosalfar; I was about to attack Acheron and I got the obligatory 25 or so tigers. Unfortunately, they fear, even when I cast courage. Apparently, unlike other summons, they aren't immune to fear, but unfortunately,they cannot have the spell 'Courage' applied either.

Is this a bug or feature?

Best wishes,

Breunor

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Tigers don't have a racial promotion like Elemental, Angel, or Demon that makes them immune to fear. They are also UNITCOMBAT_ANIMAL, which is not listed among the unitcombats that can get courage. I assume this is intentional. Only the unitcombats that generally represent humans are listed, perhaps indicating that the spirit magic can only be used on those with souls and forms made partially of that precept.



Changing this

        <PromotionInfo>
            <Type>PROMOTION_COURAGE</Type>
            <Description>TXT_KEY_PROMOTION_COURAGE</Description>
            <Sound>AS2D_IF_LEVELUP</Sound>
            <TechPrereq>TECH_NEVER</TechPrereq>
            <iSameTileHealChange>10</iSameTileHealChange>
            <UnitCombats>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ADEPT</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ARCHER</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_DISCIPLE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MELEE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MOUNTED</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_RECON</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
            </UnitCombats>
            <Button>Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions/Courage.dds</Button>
            <bDispellable>1</bDispellable>
            <bImmuneToFear>1</bImmuneToFear>
            <iAIWeight>50</iAIWeight>
            <iMinLevel>-1</iMinLevel>
        </PromotionInfo>

to this

        <PromotionInfo>
            <Type>PROMOTION_COMMANDO</Type>
            <Description>TXT_KEY_PROMOTION_COMMANDO</Description>
            <Sound>AS2D_IF_LEVELUP</Sound>
            <PromotionPrereq>PROMOTION_COMBAT4</PromotionPrereq>
            <bEnemyRoute>1</bEnemyRoute>
            <iChanceFirstStrikesChange>1</iChanceFirstStrikesChange>
            <UnitCombats>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ARCHER</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>[B]
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ANIMAL</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>[/B]
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_BEAST</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_DISCIPLE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MELEE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MOUNTED</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_RECON</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
            </UnitCombats>
            <Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions/Commando.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions_Atlas.dds,1,3</Button>
        </PromotionInfo>

would fix your problem.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

well, aside from the fact that the first is for courage, and the second for commando...

 

[Breunor]

Tigers don't have a racial promotion like Elemental, Angel, or Demon that makes them immune to fear. They are also UNITCOMBAT_ANIMAL, which is not listed among the unitcombats that can get courage. I assume this is intentional. Only the unitcombats that generally represent humans are listed, perhaps indicating that the spirit magic can only be used on those with souls and forms made partially of that precept.



Changing this

        <PromotionInfo>
            <Type>PROMOTION_COURAGE</Type>
            <Description>TXT_KEY_PROMOTION_COURAGE</Description>
            <Sound>AS2D_IF_LEVELUP</Sound>
            <TechPrereq>TECH_NEVER</TechPrereq>
            <iSameTileHealChange>10</iSameTileHealChange>
            <UnitCombats>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ADEPT</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ARCHER</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_DISCIPLE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MELEE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MOUNTED</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_RECON</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
            </UnitCombats>
            <Button>Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions/Courage.dds</Button>
            <bDispellable>1</bDispellable>
            <bImmuneToFear>1</bImmuneToFear>
            <iAIWeight>50</iAIWeight>
            <iMinLevel>-1</iMinLevel>
        </PromotionInfo>

to this

        <PromotionInfo>
            <Type>PROMOTION_COMMANDO</Type>
            <Description>TXT_KEY_PROMOTION_COMMANDO</Description>
            <Sound>AS2D_IF_LEVELUP</Sound>
            <PromotionPrereq>PROMOTION_COMBAT4</PromotionPrereq>
            <bEnemyRoute>1</bEnemyRoute>
            <iChanceFirstStrikesChange>1</iChanceFirstStrikesChange>
            <UnitCombats>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ARCHER</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>[B]
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_ANIMAL</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>[/B]
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_BEAST</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_DISCIPLE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MELEE</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_MOUNTED</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
                <UnitCombat>
                    <UnitCombatType>UNITCOMBAT_RECON</UnitCombatType>
                    <bUnitCombat>1</bUnitCombat>
                </UnitCombat>
            </UnitCombats>
            <Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions/Commando.dds,Art/Interface/Buttons/Promotions_Atlas.dds,1,3</Button>
        </PromotionInfo>

would fix your problem.

Thanks MC, as always.

My view is that if it is a design feature, I shouldn't change it. Of course, if it is a bug, that's different. OK, I'll have to wait to get beastmasters to take Acheron down.


Best wishes,

Breunor

 

[Kael]

I'll add animals to those able to get the Courage promotion.

 

[Breunor]

I'll add animals to those able to get the Courage promotion.

Thanks Kael! Along with being the best, you are, well, the best!

BW,

Breunor