[GS] Canada Discussion Thread

[Ziad]

I randomly still play Canada's atomic theme

 

[berlin88]

Glad to see Canada finally getting added to Civ.

To all the people who disrespected my country over the years on these forums and said Canada would never be a Civ,..

Laurier is a decent choice although I would have preferred Sir John, Eh?

No complaints, though.

Sir John Alexander Macdonald would have been a defendable selection (although he wasn't born in Canada), but would have alienated all the people of French ancestry. I for one, am happy Canada is represented by a French leader, albeit one that was known as an anglophile.

On the other hand, many Canadian universities and even some government officials have been trying to erase the image and memory of Sir Macdonald, such as removing statues or renaming events and institutions that bore his name. The revisionist historians in Canada are not fans of Sir Macdonald, and statues of Sir Macdonald are mentioned in the news all the time, either because some group is trying to get them removed, or because vandals defaced a statue of him yet again. Even Scotland has stopped boasting about Macdonald being from there.

 

[Ziad]

They likely picked Laurier precisely because he would be a good choice to represent both French and English Canadians.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

A thought on tundra farms.

Tundra isn't susceptible to drought. So if Global Climate Change gets really bad and a lot of woods and rainforests have been cleared, droughts are going to ravage regular grassland and plains tiles. Droughts pillage farms and plantations and also reduce Food yields on affected tiles for the duration. There will be a bit of parity there I think, if drought becomes the status quo.

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

A thought on tundra farms.

Tundra isn't susceptible to drought. So if Global Climate Change gets really bad and a lot of woods and rainforests have been cleared, droughts are going to ravage regular grassland and plains tiles. Droughts pillage farms and plantations and also reduce Food yields on affected tiles for the duration. There will be a bit of parity there I think, if drought becomes the status quo.

That's a good point.

Offsetting it, though, is that blizzards seem to have no counter. So throughout the game improvements, districts, and buildings on tundra may be vulnerable to continual destruction.

I guess there is one counter, Liang, but she can only be in one city at a time. For some civs, that may be enough, but Canada presumably wants multiple tundra cities to max it's resource bonus and hockey rinks.

 

[Pistol90]

A thought on tundra farms.

Tundra isn't susceptible to drought. So if Global Climate Change gets really bad and a lot of woods and rainforests have been cleared, droughts are going to ravage regular grassland and plains tiles. Droughts pillage farms and plantations and also reduce Food yields on affected tiles for the duration. There will be a bit of parity there I think, if drought becomes the status quo.

And also game is going to be longer because it has another era ... so if climate change effects start at lets say industrial era, and become real problem in modern era --- you still have long time before wining. Right know there is almost nothing which can change game outcome in modern era except maybe nukes.

 

[Canadian Bluebeer]

I look at it this way. Now that Canada is officially in the game, it will be much easier to mod it to suit our particular tastes.

If the AI actually starts doing an air force, then I could change the UU into the Arrow. (so much fer yer bombers)
Leaders is a bit trickier. (for giggles, make'em warmongering, and put Kames Jirk in as the leader. heh)

 

[Thormodr]

They likely picked Laurier precisely because he would be a good choice to represent both French and English Canadians.

Oh, probably. Laurier is a fine choice.

I just have a fondness for Sir John, Eh?

 

[Wingednosering]

Laurier is probably the best choice they could make. Represents Canada's multilingual culture and isn't offensive to anybody.

Pierre Trudeau - Great PM, but pissed off some regions. His son is currently PM and they tend to avoid connections like that

Macdonald - Notorious drunk

King - Brilliant PM, but a bit of a nutter

Those are basically the only other options...

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Laurier is probably the best choice they could make. Represents Canada's multilingual culture and isn't offensive to anybody.

Pierre Trudeau - Great PM, but pissed off some regions. His son is currently PM and they tend to avoid connections like that

Macdonald - Notorious drunk

King - Brilliant PM, but a bit of a nutter

Those are basically the only other options...

Champlain, Frontenac, Borden, Bennett, St. Laurent, Pearson … you could do something interesting with any of these.

 

[berlin88]

Champlain, Frontenac, Borden, Bennett, St. Laurent, Pearson … you could do something interesting with any of these.

Samuel de Champlain was the founder of Quebec, so I would vote for him, although the explorer Jacque Cartier could also be used.

New France had 18 different Governor Generals and 6 different Royal Viceroys, but I am at a loss to find any more famous than Frontenac or Champlain, aside from Pierre de Rigaud, marquis de Vaudreuil-Cavagnial who was in charge when the British sieged Quebec and won control of eastern Canada.

Montcalm who died at the Plains of Abraham would also be another choice, although he held a low opinion of French Canadians, and often treated them poorly, thinking them "too Canadian" and not French enough.

 

[Thormodr]

Laurier is probably the best choice they could make. Represents Canada's multilingual culture and isn't offensive to anybody.

Pierre Trudeau - Great PM, but pissed off some regions. His son is currently PM and they tend to avoid connections like that

Macdonald - Notorious drunk

King - Brilliant PM, but a bit of a nutter

Those are basically the only other options...

I was agreement until you said Trudeau was a great PM. Closer to unmitigated disaster, actually.

Sir John Eh? liked to drink, sure, but he was a Father of Confederation and our first PM. He also cleaned up his act in the last few years of his life. The media never likes to talk about that, though.

King was fine but he did have some sort of mental disorder, yeah.

Laurier is a fine choice, in any case. I just hope he'll say the (Fill in the blank) Century belongs to Canada whenever you converse with him. Lol.

 

[Bad Wolf]

Glad to see Canada finally getting added to Civ.

To all the people who disrespected my country over the years on these forums and said Canada would never be a Civ,..

Laurier is a decent choice although I would have preferred Sir John, Eh?

No complaints, though.

Ten or twenty years ago Macdonald would have been the obvious choice, he was going through something of a high point image-wise. However politics has shifted pretty rapidly since then and Firaxis doesn't want the game boycotted.

 

[Timothy001]

That would never happen up here. We are too polite.

 

[OmegaDestroyer]

RE: Tundra farms.

After getting stuck so many times starting off in tundra with various civs (except Russia; I have bad luck starting near tundra as Russia), I'm looking forward to being able to farm fairly worthless pieces of land.

 

[Disgustipated]

except Russia; I have bad luck starting near tundra as Russia

I just had 2 starts with Russia this week with no tundra. And nearby desert (outside the city radius though). It's not that it wasn't close, it wasn't there at all. I explored both North and South for several turns. Do they even have a tundra bias?

 

[Wingednosering]

I just had 2 starts with Russia this week with no tundra. And nearby desert (outside the city radius though). It's not that it wasn't close, it wasn't there at all. I explored both North and South for several turns. Do they even have a tundra bias?

Yes, but all start biases have been pretty botched since the last patch.

 

[God of Kings]

Wilfred Laurier's background is anachronistic.

Laurier died two years before the Peace Tower was completed.

The Centre Block of the Parliament Complex in Ottawa during Laurier's time looked like this:

The original tower was burned down after Laurier was prime minister, but before he died.

 

[Weraptor]

Thanks, now I won't unsee it.

 

[Morningcalm]

Wilfred Laurier's background is anachronistic.

Laurier died two years before the Peace Tower was completed.

The Centre Block of the Parliament Complex in Ottawa during Laurier's time looked like this:

The original tower was burned down after Laurier was prime minister, but before he died.

Good spotting. But as I believe Canada should never have been in Civ VI I am actually kind of glad this anachronism is in the game. Shows just how out of place Canada is.