Cartoon Shooting in Denmark

[classical_hero]

I guess we can add "Attending the funeral of a person you don't like" to the Christian fundamentalist list of banned things.

They were mourning a guy who was a terrorist. That is unacceptable to me, but if it is acceptable to you, then that is fine. You will see what happens when sympathisers will do in the future. I'm sure you will enjoy the consequences.

 

[aelf]

I think they mourned Samson too. You know, the guy who killed thousands for their foreskins so he could marry somebody.

 

[Borachio]

They were mourning a guy who was a terrorist. That is unacceptable to me,

Despite the injunctions of forgiveness, loving one's enemies, and doing good to those that hate you, you mean?

Ooooooh! It's like I'm invisible. I must have died... and I'm a ghost. That's scary.

 

[Flying Pig]

They were mourning a guy who was a terrorist. That is unacceptable to me, but if it is acceptable to you, then that is fine. You will see what happens when sympathisers will do in the future. I'm sure you will enjoy the consequences.

Terrorists have families and friends too. Not to mention that a lot of people think British, American and Australian soldiers are terrorists.

 

[classical_hero]

@Bora, You are taking jesus' words out of context.

 

[Borachio]

Am I? I don't think I am. An enemy is an enemy whatever the context. And if someone hates me, they hate me.

 

[aelf]

To fundamentalists, the only interpretations of holy scriptures that have the correct context are their interpretations. It's the same in Islam and Christianity.

 

[Borachio]

Well, I'm with you on the parallel between Islam and Christianity. On a dark night I wouldn't be able to tell one from the other.

I can't see how anyone can interpret their way round an enemy being an enemy, and hate being hate, though.

 

[Atticus]

If you strip the forgiving and loving your enemies and all that stuff from Jesus's teachings, I don't see much reasons to call it a religion of peace. More like religion of hate.

 

[Commodore]

This is why I like being an atheist. I can seek revenge against my enemies and freely advocate for their destruction without worrying about whether or not I am being hypocritical according to the tenets of my "faith".

 

[Sommerswerd]

I can seek revenge against my enemies and freely advocate for their destruction without worrying about whether or not I am being hypocritical according to the tenets of my "faith".

You can do that without being an atheist (and many people do).

 

[Borachio]

It's a bit hard to advocate the destruction of one's enemies without hypocrisy if you subscribe to Christianity.

 

[Tahuti]

It's a bit hard to advocate the destruction of one's enemies without hypocrisy if you subscribe to Christianity.

Unless they are non-Christians.

 

[Sommerswerd]

It's a bit hard to advocate the destruction of one's enemies without hypocrisy if you subscribe to Christianity.

But he didn't say "without being hypocritical", he said "without worrying about whether or not I am being hypocritical" ... Which, as I said people do all the time

 

[classical_hero]

It's a bit hard to advocate the destruction of one's enemies without hypocrisy if you subscribe to Christianity.

This is what Jesus said about the citizens of two cities. He condemned them for their lack of belief.
Matthew 11:20-24 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee

 

[Berzerker]

Jesus didn't tell us to kill and hate our enemies in those verses

 

[Borachio]

Yes. Hahahahaha!

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Hahahahahaha!

Ha!

I like a good laugh. I do.

 

[Flying Pig]

This is what Jesus said about the citizens of two cities. He condemned them for their lack of belief.
Matthew 11:20-24 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee

That sounds, if anything, like an injunction against killing your enemies - he's saying that these cities will suffer on the day of judgement, rather than encouraging people to make them suffer in the present. Sounds a lot more like an argument for leaving the punishment of wrongdoers up to God.

 

[aelf]

Fundamentalists don't know anything.

 

[Atticus]

That sounds, if anything, like an injunction against killing your enemies - he's saying that these cities will suffer on the day of judgement, rather than encouraging people to make them suffer in the present. Sounds a lot more like an argument for leaving the punishment of wrongdoers up to God.

It may be that even God isn't going to condemn or punish them. Here's what he said to the adulter:

"Straightening up, Jesus said to her, 'Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?' She said, 'No one, Lord.' And Jesus said, 'I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.'"