Chris Christie is in Trouble

[Formaldehyde]

Chris Christie is quite literally a scumbag:

Not to mention this went on for days. Where was the governor trying to resolve this concocted traffic jam? Why did he remain silent until it became obvious his own office arranged it?

 

[TrafficJam]

Not to mention this went on for days.

I have a hard time believing that first responders don't have ways of determining if traffic is bad on certain roads. Maybe not immediately, but certainly after a few hours, let alone days. Not at all trying to excuse those that are at fault here, but blaming Christie for deaths caused by responders not being able to find alternate routes seems a bit of a stretch to me.

 

[JollyRoger]

How are first responders expected to predict what traffic stunts the governor is pulling on any particular day?

 

[Formaldehyde]

I have a hard time believing that first responders don't have ways of determining if traffic is bad on certain roads. Maybe not immediately, but certainly after a few hours, let alone days. Not at all trying to excuse those that are at fault here, but blaming Christie for deaths caused by responders not being able to find alternate routes seems a bit of a stretch to me.

First off, what an appropriate handle for responding to this thread.

How exactly were the first responders supposed to get to stranded motorists on that very same bridge? Why would NJ first responders otherwise even be on it when it connects to NY?

You certainly have to blame someone for deliberately endangering the lives of others with such a petty and malicious act, much less causing the loss of untold millions of dollars of lost productivity.

 

[JollyRoger]

Obviously, it's the mayor's fault. He should have foreseen the problems that would ensue from his failure to endorse Christie.

 

[Kyriakos]

NEWS:

http://news.yahoo.com/christie-fires-aide-apologizes-traffic-jams-161543454--politics.html

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — Gov. Chris Christie on Thursday apologized for highway lane closures apparently ordered by his aides as political retribution, said he had "no knowledge or involvement" in what happened and sought to assure New Jerseyans the actions are not typical of the way his administration does business.
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"This is the exception, not the rule," he told a news conference.

Christie, who had previously assured the public his staff had no involvement in the road closings, said he had fired Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Anne Kelly "because she lied to me."

How noble.

 

[TrafficJam]

You certainly have to blame someone for deliberately endangering the lives of others with such a petty and malicious act.

Like I said, I'm not trying to excuse the responsible party. Certainly someone needs to be held accountable. And it looks like someone is: Christie fires aide

 

[Formaldehyde]

I doubt the "plausible deniability" yet again is going to matter all that much.

 

[Light Cleric]

First off, what an appropriate handle for responding to this thread.

You know, I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe Mr. TrafficJam is the actual culprit here and should be subpoenaed

 

[Kyriakos]

You know, I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe Mr. TrafficJam is the actual culprit here and should be subpoenaed

+1

Given that anything else with a minor relation to Christie and Jams seems to get the same treatment.

 

[TrafficJam]

If you must know, the handle and avi are both homages to the greatest musician of our time:


Link to video.

 

[danjuno]

I agree. Hillary is inevitable, just like when she won the nomination handily in 2008 and beat Rudy Giuliani who was inevitable and won the Republican primary

Clinton's performance in the run-up to 2008 is a far cry from the numbers she's getting for 2016.

 

[Gucumatz]

Yea its bad but this isn't a scandal that will come anywhere close to sinking him in my opinion. Although I don't know it, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one actually responsible directly for the incident. Potential nominees/candidates have suffered through worse scandals and gone through + given the amount of time between now and the actual election season this whole thing will probably large blow over for a lot of people. Anyways I doubt this is the first instance of him strong-arming dissidents/opponents and strong-arming your enemies is an effective tool often in American politics when looked at in history - as long as you aren't caught.

 

[Light Cleric]

Clinton's performance in the run-up to 2008 is a far cry from the numbers she's getting for 2016.

My point was nothing is inevitable. I loathe people being anointed, especially someone with as much baggage as Hillary. Look back at Jan 2006(The same point in this campaign) and see Barack Obama not even polling. Someone could really come up and bite her in the ass or at least not make it the coronation everyone in Washington and all the Clinton cronies want it to be.

 

[bhsup]

Even if he was personally responsible, I am not sure it would have an effect on his electability. I mean, hell, people get elected to the senate after drunkenly killing women in car crashes.

 

[uppi]

Anyways I doubt this is the first instance of him strong-arming dissidents/opponents and strong-arming your enemies is an effective tool often in American politics when looked at in history - as long as you aren't caught.

What I don't get is what they were trying to accomplish here - other than petty revenge. In any case, even if the real reason never becomes public, the mayor is unlikely to be politically damaged by this stunt. The mayor can always shift the blame to the authorities closing the road. So the intimidation threat is not that big and this is more likely to alienate possible political supporters who suspect whats going on. Additionally, the support of this mayor did not seem to be critical at all.

If there is an apparent effective strategy behind it, voters might forgive it, as the end might justify the means. But this looks like being evil for the sake of being evil, accompanied by incompetence at being evil.

 

[Archbob]

My bet on Walker is looking better and better.

Also, we should bump the problem thread, we haven't done a big update in a long while.

Scott Walker or Walk, Texas Ranger? I have a feeling Texas Ranger would do better than Scott Walker in a general election.

 

[downtown]

It. doesn't. matter. Kids are off limits. Besides, I can't think of a single politician at or above a gubernatorial position that sends their children to public schools. I imagine some exist. I can't imagine why they would.

I know of a few. The best public schools of any major US city are just as good, if not better, than their private ones. I wish more politicians did actually...you tend to place the well being of a major system a little higher if it directly impacts you or people close to you.

Even if he was personally responsible, I am not sure it would have an effect on his electability. I mean, hell, people get elected to the senate after drunkenly killing women in car crashes.

That's my thinking. This is a pretty rotten thing to do, but I really think it's something that people who don't live along the east coast will quickly forget about. It's going to get a lot of play because so many major reporters live around NYC. Their local politics always get amplified.

 

[Berzerker]

I have a bigger problem with (MS)NBC's dumbass producers who approve all this stuff. -Wanna talk about pooping in Sarah Palin's mouth? Go ahead, Martin.
-Make fun of the black adopted grandkid? Sure, why not?
-Want to hide a black person's face to pretend he's white so a bunch of privileged jackasses can talk about the crazed white people and their guns? Sounds great! -Doctor the Travon Martin 911 call to make it sound racist? Push the narrative!
-Accuse people of not wanting to help welfare recipients because of racism even though there are actually more white people on welfare than black? Keep stirring the pot!
-Want to ignore all the minority speakers at the RNC in order to instead have a panel of white people talk about how there's no minorities? Yeah we can sign off on that.
-Have a privileged white jackass(O'Donnell) play Torquemada and grill a black man (Herman Cain) about the civil rights movement and the Vietnam war which he didn't fight only because the Navy wanted to use him in another role? GO FOR IT

This is quality journalism here, folks, we could all learn a thing or two. I need to find the fantastic articles Kevin Williamson and Charles Cooke have written about that nuthouse.

I'll be damned for sure, but I do like watching MSNBC

 

[Formaldehyde]

That's my thinking. This is a pretty rotten thing to do, but I really think it's something that people who don't live along the east coast will quickly forget about. It's going to get a lot of play because so many major reporters live around NYC. Their local politics always get amplified.

It is a super huge deal if you are in any bit familiar with the GW bridge and the morning commute. This literally cost companies untold millions of dollars, not to mention more than one life.