Chris Christie is in Trouble

[downtown]

That would certainly be something, if they suddenly sprouted credentials and got congressional approval.

edit: presuming you meant they got their position via Christie's appointment.

Eh, how they got their job isn't really relevant to the hypothetical I think. A guy who is willing to abuse the levers of power for political gain and mess with traffic patterns is a bad thing. If a similarly morally flexible person was a paper pusher at say, the NSA, imagine what havoc they could cause.

 

[uppi]

Eh, how they got their job isn't really relevant to the hypothetical I think. A guy who is willing to abuse the levers of power for political gain and mess with traffic patterns is a bad thing. If a similarly morally flexible person was a paper pusher at say, the NSA, imagine what havoc they could cause.

In my opinion it is much worse than that, because there was little political gain in that. It seems this was more motivated by the personal desire for revenge. Imagine someone like this working at the NSA and he is mad at you for you giving him a funny look on the street.

 

[Kaitzilla]

“Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee,” Bridget Anne Kelly, a deputy chief of staff to Mr. Christie, emailed David Wildstein, a high school friend of the governor who worked at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs the bridge.

Now that's some grade A corruption.

 

[Hygro]

It. doesn't. matter. Kids are off limits. Besides, I can't think of a single politician at or above a gubernatorial position that sends their children to public schools. I imagine some exist. I can't imagine why they would.

It's not about his kids, it's about him. His kids aren't sending themselves to private schools...

 

[Hygro]

On that note, could you imagine if these goons actually had jobs in the NSA?

I think that's what most of us are imagining every single day.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Semi-Serious question: How did the NSA fail to prevent or even catch what can very seriously be described as a state sponsored terror attack?

 

[Chieftess]

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[Kyriakos]

What an elegant strawman that anybody was arguing that she should be elected merely due to being a female, while even insinuating that both Clinton and Obama are just like Bush. That they can't possibly be "good presidents", unlike some other unspecified politicians.

Oh i see. So your point was that in your view Hillary is better as a president for 2016 than any other candidate?

It would have been cool if only the republican party boasted of such titans of politics like W Bush. It would also mean that the US would have been out of trouble by now, with Obama.
Seems that neither is true. Obama was played out to be pretty much the antithesis of W Bush, and in reality he was equally pathetic and even rested on the fair outcy of the people against W so as to further destroy their rights and well-being. Nothing to be proud of.

As for Hillary: What difference does it make? ...

 

[Aroddo]

I read that because of Chris Christie an ambulance got delayed and a woman died as a result.
I wonder why, though.

Don't US ambulances do it like this?:

Link to video.

 

[Adjuvant]

If you impair (fail to yield for) the advance of an emergency vehicle, you have broken the law.

Where are people to go on a bridge, though?

 

[Light Cleric]

If you impair (fail to yield for) the advance of an emergency vehicle, you have broken the law.

Where are people to go on a bridge, though?

Pretty much, yeah. If the thing is closed then you really don't have a choice but to sit there.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Oh i see. So your point was that in your view Hillary is better as a president for 2016 than any other candidate?

No, I "view" her as being more than qualified to do the job, just like Obama is. And you have yet to show that is even possibly the case.

So you have no defense at all for your strawman that anybody was even suggesting that people should vote for Hillary for merely being female?

It would also mean that the US would have been out of trouble by now, with Obama.

What "trouble" is that?

You seem to think the president should be some sort of demigod. Who do you think actually fits this description, either in the past or in the present?

 

[Kyriakos]

No, I "view" her as being more than qualified to do the job, just like Obama is.

Then

what difference does it (her gender) make?

Since someone (could it have been you? ) thought to make a point about the people not being ready for a female president.

It is clear that many people will likely not ever be ready for a female president. But that certainly shouldn't be the case with any country that claims to be modern and secular.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Then

what difference does it (her gender) make?

So it has competely escaped your notice that many people won't vote for her for merely being a woman, just as they didn't vote for Obama for merely being black? That I was clearly responding to this statement, just as IglooDude was:

I don't feel "America is ready" for a female president, and I'm not entirely sure Clinton even wants the job.

Since someone (could it have been you? ) thought to make a point about the people not being ready for a female president.

Perhaps you should take the time to read the thread before insinuating that others have views they clearly do not have. That my statement in no way reflects your strawman.

 

[Adjuvant]

I'm a die-hard Republican, Formy. I wouldn't vote for H. Clinton because she's a Democrat. Again you've twisted what I say to troll around. Specifically I said, and I meant, "America is not ready for a female president". I do not think there are enough people who feel otherwise to outweigh the sentiment. I do not think it likely a female will win a caucus in a position above V.P. If "she" does, and "she" is Repub, I will vote for "her".

 

[Light Cleric]

Can someone explain to me why, if I'm a blank slate, I should vote for Hillary in 2016? I've seriously asked this multiple places and rather than get a serious answer about her accomplishments I basically get a combination of:
A)very empty statements(she was the most "well-traveled Secretary of State ever, which I'll keep in mind if frequent flier miles becomes a big issue instead of what she actually accomplished during those trips)
B)incredulity that I'm even questioning the anointed one ala question Obama in 2008
C)An answer involving Bill which confuses me because Hillary did not change her name to Bill and I didn't ask about Bill

 

[Formaldehyde]

I'm a die-hard Republican, Formy. I wouldn't vote for H. Clinton because she's a Democrat. Again you've twisted what I say to troll around. Specifically I said, and I meant, "America is not ready for a female president". I do not think there are enough people who feel otherwise to outweigh the sentiment. I do not think it likely a female will win a caucus in a position above V.P. If "she" does, and "she" is Repub, I will vote for "her".

I was merely disagreeing with you in what I consider to be utter nonsense. Even India and Pakistan have had female leaders, much less the UK and Germany.

It isn't a "troll" at all, as you continue to falsely allege with so many of my posts.

FEMALE WORLD LEADERS CURRENTLY IN POWER

1 Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel Nov. 22, 2005 - elected
2 Liberia President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf Jan. 16, 2006 - elected
3 Argentina President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner Dec. 10, 2007 - elected
4 Bangledesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed Jan. 6, 2009 - elected
5 Iceland Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurdardóttir Feb. 1, 2009 - appointed 2009, elected 2009
6 Lithuania President Dalia Grybauskaite Jul. 12, 2009 - elected
7 Costa Rica President Laura Chinchilla May 8, 2010 - elected
8 Trinidad and Tobago Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar May 26, 2010 - elected
9 Australia Prime Minister Julia Gillard Jun. 24, 2010 - appointed 2010, elected 2010
10 Slovakia Prime Minister Iveta Radicová Jul. 8, 2010 - elected
11 Brazil President Dilma Rousseff Jan. 1, 2011 - elected
12 Kosovo President Atifete Jahjaga Apr. 7, 2011 - elected
13 Thailand Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra Aug. 8, 2011 - elected
14 Denmark Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt Oct. 3, 2011 - elected
15 Jamaica Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller Jan. 5, 2012 - elected
16 Malawi President Joyce Banda Apr. 7, 2012 - succeeded
17 South Korea President Park Geun-hye Feb. 25, 2013 - elected
18 Slovenia Prime Minister Alenka Bratusek Mar. 20, 2013 - elected
19 Cyprus (North) Prime Minister Sibel Siber Jun. 13, 2013 - appointed

Can someone explain to me why, if I'm a blank slate, I should vote for Hillary in 2016?

You should vote for her if you think she would be a better president than the other choice.

 

[Adjuvant]

I was merely disagreeing with you in what I consider to be utter nonsense. Even India and Pakistan have had female leaders, much less the UK and Germany.

It isn't a "troll" at all, as you continue to falsely allege.

FEMALE WORLD LEADERS CURRENTLY IN POWER

Care to share the name of the latest female president of Pakistan?

 

[Formaldehyde]

Your search engine isn't working?

 

[Adjuvant]

Bhutto was prime minister, you intentionally deceptive troll.

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