Civ V stock image Scavenger hunt

[The_J]

Oh well, we don't only "want" to find copies, i think seeing possible inspirations is also interesting .
It's sure not close, but we can guess that the artists might have used it as basic...er..."template", outline, whatever else. Still a nice finding, even if it's not a copy.

 

[BenAxiom]

The Great Wall

 

[sukritact]

Wow, you can even see the bush in the icon if you look carefully!

 

[OrsonM]

and the shadows on the right

 

[BenAxiom]

 

[turboraton]

I think we can all agree that those paintings are one of the best things of the game.

 

[Pouakai]

I think we can all agree that those paintings are one of the best things of the game.

I know! They are simply awesome!

 

[AriochIV]

What's disappointing is not that the artist used references -- all artists use references -- but rather than he or she was so lazy in the manner in which they were used. What's especially lazy (and was obvious long before this thread appeared) is that there are several different icons that obviously use the same reference pose.

On the issue of legality, we can point to the very recent example of the Fairey vs. Associated Press court battle over the Obama "Hope" poster image:

The Associated Press sued artist Shepard Fairey for his use of this image (for which they claimed he made $400,000), but Fairey countersued claiming fair use. The case was ultimately settled out of court:

In settling the lawsuit, the AP and Mr. Fairey have agreed that neither side surrenders its view of the law. Mr. Fairey has agreed that he will not use another AP photo in his work without obtaining a license from the AP. The two sides have also agreed to work together going forward with the Hope image and share the rights to make the posters and merchandise bearing the Hope image and to collaborate on a series of images that Fairey will create based on AP photographs.

Meanwhile, Mannie Garcia, the photographer who actually took the photograph (and who at one point sued AP claiming he wasn't working for them when the photo was taken, though he later dropped the suit) got nothing.

So for those arguing that this kind of use is clearly legal or clearly not legal, I think it's very much an open question.

 

[HammerandSickle]

Hmm...
I was wondering on what picture is Harun al-Rashid based.
I did a bit of searching and found nothing.

Help, anyone?

 

[Revoran]

I think we can all agree that those paintings are one of the best things of the game.

I completely agree and love the paintings - but there are a lot of people who miss the movies (why - i can't imagine).

 

[NinjaCow64]

This is one interesting thread.

 

[IONDragonX]

Oxford:

My guess is they used the right side and copied/flipped it to make the left side.

If you look at the left side, you can see that the shadows are all reversed...

 

[BenAxiom]

National College (Athens Academy)

 

[Gwenwyn]

Not a stock image, but a link to a blog by one of the artists on CiV: http://marchudgins.blogspot.com/

Interesting to see how the artwork was translated into the game.

(Sorry - slightly off-topic)

 

[KingYosef]

As a graphic designer myself, this is blatant irresponsible and illegal use of images by Firaxis and 2K.

For those that think this type of use is ok. How would you like it if I took a picture of you with your family, horizontal flip it, morph the clothes a bit and added painting effects, and use it in my next book I'm going to sell about family values. In the meantime, I'm not going to tell you I used your family photo, and not give you anything for using it. How would you like that?

This is the same thing that was done as presented in this thread. It makes me sick to see this lack of honesty going on and people defending it.


Here is a link to the parallel Firaxis/2K forum thread for those who want to express their thoughts over there... http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?107588-Civilization-V-stock-image-scavenger-hunt

 

[Thormodr]

As a graphic designer myself, this is blatant irresponsible and illegal use of images by Firaxis and 2K.

For those that think this type of use is ok. How would you like it if I took a picture of you with your family, horizontal flip it, morph the clothes a bit and added painting effects, and use it in my next book I'm going to sell about family values. In the meantime, I'm not going to tell you I used your family photo, and not give you anything for using it. How would you like that?

This is the same thing that was done as presented in this thread. It makes me sick to see this lack of honesty going on and people defending it.


Here is a link to the parallel Firaxis/2K forum thread for those who want to express their thoughts over there... http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?107588-Civilization-V-stock-image-scavenger-hunt

Thanks for the link and I agree 100% with what you've said.

 

[Brichals]

For those that think this type of use is ok. How would you like it if I took a picture of you with your family, horizontal flip it, morph the clothes a bit and added painting effects, and use it in my next book I'm going to sell about family values. In the meantime, I'm not going to tell you I used your family photo, and not give you anything for using it. How would you like that?

I couldn't care less, in fact I'd probably be flattered if anything. You'ld be missing out though, because I'm not very photogenic, you could make me a bit thinner.

 

[Sonereal]

As a graphic designer myself, this is blatant irresponsible and illegal use of images by Firaxis and 2K.

Corporations doing something slightly illegal for profit? Unbelievable!

For those that think this type of use is ok. How would you like it if I took a picture of you with your family, horizontal flip it, morph the clothes a bit and added painting effects, and use it in my next book I'm going to sell about family values. In the meantime, I'm not going to tell you I used your family photo, and not give you anything for using it. How would you like that?

Isn't that a strawman? Where did they take a picture of a family and did what you said?

This is the same thing that was done as presented in this thread. It makes me sick to see this lack of honesty going on and people defending it.

And? Don't we got bigger things to worry about than people who can't accept that the second you paste an image on the internet, it's de facto public?

 

[OrsonM]

As a graphic designer myself, this is blatant irresponsible and illegal use of images by Firaxis and 2K.

For those that think this type of use is ok. How would you like it if I took a picture of you with your family, horizontal flip it, morph the clothes a bit and added painting effects, and use it in my next book I'm going to sell about family values. In the meantime, I'm not going to tell you I used your family photo, and not give you anything for using it. How would you like that?

This is the same thing that was done as presented in this thread. It makes me sick to see this lack of honesty going on and people defending it.


Here is a link to the parallel Firaxis/2K forum thread for those who want to express their thoughts over there... http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?107588-Civilization-V-stock-image-scavenger-hunt

I agree as well.

I feel we all deserve a reply from Firaxis to clarify this issue. Whatever anyones perspective on this might be.

And also, this man here be a graphic designer (it may help to think of him as a professional of sorts, almost like he went to college or works with images for a living). I know the temptation to "prove him wrong" is big, but I ask for a bit of restraint, if possible.

 

[Brichals]

Well lets all blame Firaxis for using public domain pictures. What terror. A reputable company liek Blizzard would never do such a thing.

I present you, Kerrigan artwork for SC2 expansion (used for front of BNet page now) and Kiani from Fathom graphical novels. Also including a horizontal flip, stay classy.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1310/kianiwtf.jpg