[LP] Civilization VI: Leader Pass - Discussion Thread

It's a good fantasy! A camel just chilling watching those silly horses tiring themselves galloping to battle.

Anyway, going by Civ units design, I would expect the cannons to be even bigger in-game :lol:
Yeah, I mean everything has to be exaggerated in game, purists be damned. :D I think they need to look like cartoonized vershios because zoomed out to the level most people play the game you have to be able to see characteristics of the units or at least tell one from the other.
 
I'd say we've reached peak hats.
What if other Suleiman comes with his giant onion hat? :)
We shall cry tears of joy from the raw splendor eminating from Suleiman's magnificent onion hat.
 
We shall cry tears of joy from the raw splendor eminating from Suleiman's magnificent onion hat.
Yeah, the more I think about it Suleiman the Magnificent has to come with his magnificent onion hat. :)
 
They spelt "Ramses" name wrong. His name is: rꜥ-ms-sw Rīʿa-məsī-sū

Or at the least, get his Romanised name correct: Ramesses.
 
Or at the least, get his Romanised name correct: Ramesses.
Yeah, you'd think if an animated musical could get it right a quarter of a century ago (which just made me feel incredibly old)...
 
While I share the concerns of some to have Ludwig II ruling Germany, it's probably one of the rulers that hypes me the most.
I mean, sure, Ludwig II ruling Germany is quite odd, but remember, Firaxis said time and time again that, for leaders, they were heading toward big personalities. And the lunatic, homosexual, bankrupt, architect, gallivanting-in the-night-in-a-sleigh, dying-mysteriously-with-his-psychiatrist Ludwig II is definitely a big personality.

I mean, knowing that he bankrupted himself several times for his architectural projects, he could have an ability to spend money to quicken Wonders building. Would be an interesting choice, in the same vein as Qin Shi Huang First Emperor move.
I'd say Bavaria is German enough for it to count. Personally though, I would have gone with Frederick the Great the equally-homosexual, but then there'd be two Fredericks in the same civ to potentially confuse people.
 
I'm excited to go learn more about a few historical figures I hadn't learned of yet!

And remember, folks: if you aren't happy with any of the personas, they can be disabled in the DLC/content menu.
And in the leader selector/deselector that was provided in NFP
 
I like the "spending gold on wonder production" idea for Ludwig that many posters have said, but I think it'd be hard to balance. How about something like this:

Ludwig II of Bavaria
Leader ability: Builder of Bavaria. Districts and improvements that normally lower appeal don't for Ludwig (to synergize with Hanse). Leader unique improvement: Schloss. Built onto mountains, like ski resorts. Unlocked in the early industrial era. One per city. Gives tourism, culture, and gold equal to the sum of the appeal of all adjacent tiles, which can no longer be worked. (but you can still put a national park on them!)

Is that too strong?
 
Ludwig II of Bavaria
Leader ability: Builder of Bavaria. Districts and improvements that normally lower appeal don't for Ludwig (to synergize with Hanse). Leader unique improvement: Schloss. Built onto mountains, like ski resorts. Unlocked in the early industrial era. One per city. Gives tourism, culture, and gold equal to the sum of the appeal of all adjacent tiles, which can no longer be worked. (but you can still put a national park on them!)
Give me Austria without actually giving me Austria. :thumbsup:
 
Give me Austria without actually giving me Austria. :thumbsup:
That just gave me a fun idea. In Civ7, I want Maria Theresa to lead Bohemia. She was technically Queen of Bohemia, and it would attach her to a much more interesting civ. :mischief: (Don't kill me; I'm only joking. :p I want George of Podebrady anyway. :p )
 
I was really hoping Alexandr Nevsky or Ivan III would lead Russia in Civ7. That's not going to happen now. :( Well, Ivan III, Prince of Moscow and All Rus, might be a dim possibility, but he doesn't have the romantic appeal of Alexandr Nevsky.

Eh, Nevsky's capitol would be Novgorod, which is in present day Russia, so I think that's fine for him to be a Russian leader by Civ logic
 
Eh, Nevsky's capitol would be Novgorod, which is in present day Russia, so I think that's fine for him to be a Russian leader by Civ logic
And my first choice, Ivan III, would have his capital at Moscow. Indeed, by marrying a Byzantine princess, it's his fault that Russia was allegedly "the Third Rome." :p But I'm not sure Firaxis is willing to give Russia a leader associated with Rus', sadly. In particular, Nevsky has been a very romantic figure in Russian nationalism (see the eponymous Soviet-era film), which probably makes him, the likeliest Ruthenian grand prince, particular unlikely. :(
 
And my first choice, Ivan III, would have his capital at Moscow. Indeed, by marrying a Byzantine princess, it's his fault that Russia was allegedly "the Third Rome." :p But I'm not sure Firaxis is willing to give Russia a leader associated with Rus', sadly. In particular, Nevsky has been a very romantic figure in Russian nationalism (see the eponymous Soviet-era film), which probably makes him, the likeliest Ruthenian grand prince, particular unlikely. :(
Nevskii's popularity was as much because of his 'choice' of enemies as anything else: he fought Germans, and the movie was made when Nazi Germany was looming as the primary enemy of the USSR.

Fun Fact if you are looking for Russian Heroes: 4 "Russian" heroes were used to name the primary military Orders given to individuals and units that excelled in the Soviet military during the Great Patriotic War (WWII if you leave out Britain, France, the USA, and the world except for the USSR and eastern Europe). They were:
The Order of Suvorov - named after Aleksandr Vasilyevich Suvorov, Catherine II's greatest general and probably the greatest military commander in Russian history. The order went to commanders and units that excelled in the offensive.
The Order of Kutuzov - named after Mikhail Illarionovich Kutuzov, the Russian commander who destroyed Napoleon's army in Russia in 1812. This order went to those who excelled on the defensive.
The Order of Aleksandr Nevskii - named after Aleksandr Yaroslavich Nevskii, and given to those who liberated towns and cities in the Baltic.
The Order of Bogdan Khmelnitskii - named after the hetman of the Zaporozhian Cossack Host, awarded for liberating towns and cities in Ukraine. This is the real outlier, because, of course, his real name was Bohdan Mykhailovych Knmelnytskyi, he was Ukrainian, and he spent most of his career fighting against Russians, not for them!
 
My choice would be Antipater, a student of Aristotle along with Alexander, executor of Aristotle's will, regent and later ruler of Greece. His agenda might be that he hates all female rulers - he spent most of his reign fighting with Alexander's mother, Olympia, who insisted on trying to run things despite him.
not really familiar with Antipater, what sort of design would you have in mind for him?
 
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