[LP] Civilization VI: Leader Pass - Discussion Thread

That was where Ukraine is now right? If so, mb
I think with all things said, Kyiv could at least be it's own city-state.

AKSHUALLY, assyria should be in the game regardless and it's heinous robbage that they aren't. :(
They partially are with Babylon. At least their UU and unique building Civilopedia entries states their connection to Assyria. :crazyeye:
 
Aww. We have to wait 40 years for JFK.
Hopefully his weird cult is dead in 40 years. :p

Semiramis - Babylon (don't come "SHE IS FICTIONAL" don't care, Tomyris probably was too, having a cool Amazon or Babylonian Queen >>>>> historical accuracy)
There's no reason to assume Tomyris was fictional. Semiramis was certainly fiction (and a highly fetishized fiction at that), but she was based on a real queen. A real queen who ruled Assyria at one of the lowest points in its history, but...If you want a woman to rule Assyria, at least choose someone interesting like Naqi'a or Serua-etirat, not some Greek fetish. Both were highly influential during the reign of Esarhaddon.

They partially are with Babylon. At least their UU and unique building Civilopedia entries states their connection to Assyria. :crazyeye:
Gilgabro's Sumer is also basically Assyria. :p
 
Kievan Rus' is the first truly Russian state, so yes, a Kievan Rus' leader for Russia totally works? It would also be a PR disaster, but historically accurate? absolutely!

(Adding a Ukraine Civ or City State based on Kievan Rus is arguably even more of a PR disaster though lol <3 imagine if they did that and Peter invaded them)
 
Kievan Rus' is the first truly Russian state, so yes, a Kievan Rus' leader for Russia totally works? It would also be a PR disaster, but historically accurate? absolutely!

(Adding a Ukraine Civ or City State based on Kievan Rus is arguably even more of a PR disaster though lol <3 imagine if they did that and Peter invaded them)
I was really hoping Alexandr Nevsky or Ivan III would lead Russia in Civ7. That's not going to happen now. :( Well, Ivan III, Prince of Moscow and All Rus, might be a dim possibility, but he doesn't have the romantic appeal of Alexandr Nevsky.
 
You guys are already discussing a second pass when this was literally just announced today?
Yes? That’s what we do haha

If the entire pass hadn’t been leaked beforehand, and/or they didn’t reveal the entirety of the pass upfront (which may or may not have been due to the leak?), we would have more to talk about in the immediate present, but alas, how will we speculate on that which is already fully known? So we speculate on what could come next, if something such did ever happen
 
Yes? That’s what we do haha

If the entire pass hadn’t been leaked beforehand, and/or they didn’t reveal the entirety of the pass upfront (which may or may not have been due to the leak?), we would have more to talk about in the immediate present, but alas, how will we speculate on that which is already fully known? So we speculate on what could come next, if something such did ever happen
The mentality of immediately moving on to the next thing tends to result in my losing excitement for the present thing.

It’s like dopamine satiety; people are already speaking of (and treating) this pass as if it’s old hat.

I guess I don’t quite get the appeal of endless speculation…burns me out.
 
The mentality of immediately moving on to the next thing tends to result in my losing excitement for the present thing.

It’s like dopamine satiety; people are already speaking of (and treating) this pass as if it’s old hat.

I guess I don’t quite get the appeal of endless speculation…burns me out.
I can entirely understand that! I guess for me, the fun lies in speculating who and what could come, so since we already know what's coming, there isn't as much fun anymore besides to see how everybody looks and feels and then gameplay mechanical abilities stuff. Given we've gone two years since NFP and haven't been able to really speculate on stuff, it's a long break and then a breath of fresh air that was cut short by the leak combined with everything getting revealed upfront on announcement

And with some seemingly-obvious omissions from a leader pass like Napoleon and Isabella, a second LP probably won't happen but it's fun to speculate on what could come next, so my fun moves to the unknown (even if the unknown is a pipe dream)
 
Yeah, but it IS their general rule. :) Was mentioned in some interview some years ago IIRC.
I asked someone - getting the licensing to use someone's likeness is pricey, so they probably avoid those people to begin with unless that license is inapplicable (like in cases of Ancient era people of interest).
 
I can entirely understand that! I guess for me, the fun lies in speculating who and what could come, so since we already know what's coming, there isn't as much fun anymore besides to see how everybody looks and feels and then gameplay mechanical abilities stuff. Given we've gone two years since NFP and haven't been able to really speculate on stuff, it's a long break and then a breath of fresh air that was cut short by the leak combined with everything getting revealed upfront on announcement

And with some seemingly-obvious omissions from a leader pass like Napoleon and Isabella, a second LP probably won't happen but it's fun to speculate on what could come next, so my fun moves to the unknown (even if the unknown is a pipe dream)
Good point as well about this being “pent up” speculation from the long drought after NFP. I get that entirely. It’s really nice to have a reason to think about Civ 6 again!
 
So Kongo has a new capital city, which means there will be at least one more update to my civ 6 map
 
I find it interesting now in-context that we know what the codenames were for now:

LPGN = Leader Pass Great Negotiators
LPJ = Leader Pass Great Commanders (with Tokugawa of Japan being the first mention)

EDIT: We got Japan correct, that was pretty obvious and doubly-so after the leaks. But we didn't know that the packs would be themed, so we couldn't have guessed that Lincoln and Ana Nzinga would be tied together
 
Now that we know the personas what do you think the other names of the leaders will be?

I think the most obvious one is Viking King Harald.
Scholar Saladin
Public Works Qin Shi Huang?
Star-Crossed Lover Cleopatra, unless Ptolemaic Cleopatra is the old one? :mischief:
Empress Victoria

Suleiman the Magnificent sounds like it could be the current version. I'm not sure. Suleiman the Lawgiver could be a cultural one, or vice versa. :dunno:
 
Star-Crossed Lover Cleopatra
I predict Isis Cleopatra (or some variation thereof). Cleopatra probably never dressed after the fashion of Ancient Egyptians in real life, but she was portrayed in art in the guise of Isis.
 
Now that we know the personas what do you think the other names of the leaders will be?

I think the most obvious one is Viking King Harald.
Scholar Saladin
Public Works Qin Shi Huang?
Star-Crossed Lover Cleopatra, unless Ptolemaic Cleopatra is the old one? :mischief:
Empress Victoria

Suleiman the Magnificent sounds like it could be the current version. I'm not sure. Suleiman the Lawgiver could be a cultural one, or vice versa. :dunno:
Queen of the Mediterranean works just fine for old Cleopatra
 
I predict Isis Cleopatra (or some variation thereof). Cleopatra probably never dressed after the fashion of Ancient Egyptians in real life, but she was portrayed in art in the guise of Isis.
From what little I know, she and Marc Antony would hold lavish feasts and dress as gods. So it's not implausible that she would have dressed as Isis. :)
 
From what little I know, she and Marc Antony would hold lavish feasts and dress as gods. So it's not implausible that she would have dressed as Isis. :)
She doubtless would have worn a himation like Athena. Or, given how she scandalized the Romans, perhaps went nude like Venus. Worth noting, even the Copts weren't wearing sheath dresses and wigs in 30 BCE; it was just an artistic convention.
 
I predict Isis Cleopatra (or some variation thereof). Cleopatra probably never dressed after the fashion of Ancient Egyptians in real life, but she was portrayed in art in the guise of Isis.
That makes more sense than trying to go all Shakespearean with the name. She already mentions how she's Isis reborn in her greeting.
 
I think we can have a blurry idea of how Ptolomeic Cleopatra will look like
civ6_portrait_bingo2.jpg


Teddy, Cleo and QSH in the wall pictures were concept art
 
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