[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[Thenewwwguy]

I appreciate your opinion, it is sound exaclty as the Tecumseh and the governor of Indiana discussion.

The history is narrative, the Tecumseh's Narrative of the world don't fit in US-American Narrative of the world.
Tecumseh demand as leader of Shawnee, Qjibwe,Wyandots,Fox,Sauk,Odawas,Kickapoos,Lenape,Miami,Seneca,Onondaga and Delawares.
was:

White Man can't buy any land in North-West Territory and Tecumseh is the only one who can speak for ALL.
I Mean, the governor of Indian should always ask to Tecumseh to deal any issue of Shawnee, Qjibwe,Wyandots,Fox,Sauk,Odawas,Kickapoos,Lenape,Miami,Seneca,Onondaga and Delawares.

The Governor don't accept, because, as your narrative.
The USA can speak as each "Tribe" as individual to deal of land, and also can go to war of each tribe.

The nations of the Northe West Territory, I Mean Shawnee, Qjibwe,Wyandots,Fox,Sauk,Odawas,Kickapoos,Lenape,Miami,Seneca,Onondaga and Delawares.
Leaded by Tecumseh don't accept US-Governor demand and it was the War of 1812.

I like you Zaarin, you understand the history exaclty as you should, exactly as the founder fathers of the USA thought, full of Civilized ideas...

the NW Territory is a colonial term used so white people could buy land that belonged to natives from the government.

Tecumseh was shawnee and led the shawnee. Those other nations supported him, but he didn’t lead them. If you really wanted him to represent those nations, I’d say call it the Great Lakes Confederacy or Tecumseh’s Confederacy, but I think it’s better for him to represent just the Shawnee

 

[AsH2]

I was out getting some more popcorn.. Will Idi Amin be alt leader for Scotland?

Spoiler King Idi :

After the United Kingdom broke off all diplomatic relations with his regime in 1977, Amin declared that he had defeated the British, and he conferred on himself the decoration of CBE (Conqueror of the British Empire). His full self-bestowed title ultimately became: "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", in addition to his officially stated claim of being the uncrowned King of Scotland.[98]

 

[Henri Christophe]

I was out getting some more popcorn.. Will Idi Amin be alt leader for Scotland?

I would play!

 

[PhilBowles]

I was out getting some more popcorn.. Will Idi Amin be alt leader for Scotland?

Only if they hire Forrest Whittaker to do the voice acting.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Another Idea.

How Many people want to play with Texas? Why it can't be a thing?
I like balanced games, just it.
Brazil also had a Free State Independance history, the Rio Grande do Sul.
They had the Unique Units, the Gauchos.
And their leader was Garibaldi, the same of Italian unification!

In Brazilian POrtuguese, everyone who born in the Rio Grande do Sul is Gaucho,
by history Gaucho is a mix race between Guarani and Iberic Spain (Both, Portugueses and Spanish).
But today's Gaucho Heritage is Very Italian/Germanic.

And it is NO PROBLEM for Gaucho heritage.
I live 6 month with they. A Unique Culture for Sure.

Then, it can be an expansion to
TEXAS STATES *I don't know who.
U.U. - Cowboy

RIO GRANDE DO SUL lead by
Giuseppe Garibaldi

Garibaldi can easly used in a Scenario of Italian Unification.
And also can be used in Africa scenario, since the Vizir of the Dahomey also used the picture the Garibaldi.

Garibaldi is just amazing!

As Unique Unit, of course, the Gaucho.

Horse Unit with Ranged attack. +10ATK against other Horse Units.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

there’s a point when suggestions for civs become independent states which are so small or locally irrelevant that it’s not even worth entertaining the discussion.

This is it.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

there’s a point when suggestions for civs become independent states which are so small or locally irrelevant that it’s not even worth entertaining the discussion.

This is it.

Well I wouldn't call Texas irrelevant and small though.

It will never happen, but being from Texas I can't hate the idea.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Well I wouldn't call Texas irrelevant and small though.

It will never happen, but being from Texas I can't hate the idea.

the time when texas was an independent country wasn’t very influential in the grand scheme of things. They didn’t do anything on a world stage of note besides complicating US-Mexico relations. They were really short-lived, and least the other short-lived nations in Civ like Gran Colombia and the Aztecs actually were influential on a large scale

 

[Xandinho]

Given the limited number of slots we have for civs, I'm not particularly fond of the idea of short-lived breakaway states as playable civs. Gran Colombia is certainly an exceptional case, this was very relevant at the time and even though the state has broken down in others minors, they have sustained their independence until today.

 

[TeddyMain]

Then, it can be an expansion to
TEXAS STATES *I don't know who.
U.U. - Cowboy

I'd be one of the people to happily play Texas.

Leader - Definitely Sam Houston
U.U. - Texas Rangers: Could act as a counterspy on your own districts and could have combat bonuses on plains and plains hills.
U.I. - Could be many things: A ranch, a live music venue, a high school. Multiple opportunities.

Yeah they'll almost never happen, but there's nothing wrong with thinking about it.

 

[AntSou]

My proposal is: Negro Abraham

God I spit my coffee every time I read this. What's the problem with just calling him Abraham?

Negro Abraham sounds too much like Latino Jesus' cousin.

I guess one way to not be racist is all races have their Good guy and their Bad guy.

Oh boy are you going the wrong way abo...

GOOD BLACKS

Jesus Chr...

Negro Abraham

NOOOOOOOOooo

I don't even have time to process it! Give a man a second to catch up!

 

[Zaarin]

Yeah they'll almost never happen, but there's nothing wrong with thinking about it.

Something like the Republic of Texas or the California Republic (or the New California Republic ) is probably best handled with mods.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Something like the Republic of Texas or the California Republic (or the New California Republic ) is probably best handled with mods.

Future Republic of Cascadia mod when guys

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Something like the Republic of Texas or the California Republic (or the New California Republic ) is probably best handled with mods.

I agree. That's why we need to think about it and give somebody ideas.

 

[TeddyMain]

Future Republic of Cascadia mod when guys

Psychotic State of Florida led by Florida Man when?

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Psychotic State of Florida led by Florida Man when?

UU: Alligator
UI: Alligator farm
LUU: Alligator wrangler

Anyway, I got a really interesting idea that stemmed from a feature i recalled from civ 3 (and maybe 4 also?) where the leader of the civ had a unit form which could do certain things.

What if we brought that back?

Or ‘Great Leaders’ became a thing to represent leaders of nations which were really powerful of interesting but their civ wasn’t interesting or didn’t have room to work with or something, and they have abilities which fit them as leaders that they grant

or alternatively each civ has its own list of great leaders to represent other big leaders of that civ, or if the civ didn’t last a long enough time, influential political people within that civ that didn’t lead

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Sorry I can't resist.
Oklahoma:
UA: Oklahoma Enabling Act of 1906- Allows two different civs to share similar territories.
Leader: Joe Exotic
LA: Tiger King- When playing as him tigers will appear as a new resource. When acquired they receive gold and tourism based on appeal of tile. Units ending their turn on a tiger tile may be damaged. May not give away tigers and is banned in the World Congress. Trying to do so will generate massive grievances for you and the other leader wanting them. Gain access to the Exotic Animal Park.
UU: Sooner (Replaces the Settler)-Unit that can cross into border territory and settle a city within three tiles of another
LUI: Exotic Animal Park (Unique to Joe Exotic)- Must be built on a tiger resource.
UI: Tribal Casino-Unique building in Neighborhood district. +5 gold and +2 tourism and +1 amenity from entertainment.

Okay I'm done. Let's talk about realistic Civs now.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Sorry I can't resist.
Oklahoma:
UA: Oklahoma Enabling Act of 1906- Allows two different civs to share similar territories.
Leader: Joe Exotic
LA: Tiger King- When playing as him tigers will appear as a new resource. When acquired they receive gold and tourism based on appeal of tile. Units ending their turn on a tiger tile may be damaged. May not give away tigers and is banned in the World Congress. Trying to do so will generate massive grievances for you and the other leader wanting them. Gain access to the Exotic Animal Park.
UU: Sooner (Replaces the Settler)-Unit that can cross into border territory and settle a city within three tiles of another
LUI: Exotic Animal Park (Unique to Joe Exotic)- Must be built on a tiger resource.
UI: Tribal Casino-Unique building in Neighborhood district. +5 gold and +2 tourism and +1 amenity from entertainment.

Okay I'm done. Let's talk about realistic Civs now.

see but this would genuinely be fun to play. These abilities are unironically really intriguing.

also, a unique settler is something i’d really want to see

 

[Henri Christophe]

Well I wouldn't call Texas irrelevant and small though.

It will never happen, but being from Texas I can't hate the idea.

I guess it is my point, Everyone just want to see him self in this game.
It is just a game after all!

I, for example, want to see black people in all corners, don't matter any history backgroud.
I would love to play as Idi Amin as alternative leader to Scotia with a bunch of Elephants and conquer the Rome, I would change the name of all my elephants to Hannibal or Gannibal.

God I spit my coffee every time I read this. What's the problem with just calling him Abraham?

Negro Abraham sounds too much like Latino Jesus' cousin.
!

It is just his name, I don't know who give it to him.

I just read it. The link>http://www.seminolenation-indianterritory.org/negroabraham.htm

Something like the Republic of Texas or the California Republic (or the New California Republic ) is probably best handled with mods.

I LIKE BALANCED GAMES!
If USA want to have a Second State, I would argue about the ACRE State from Brazil, who also was indepedent for while, they have their own unique profet and their own religion. In Brazil we often say there is more weird than Mars. But yes, there is very weird, I was there for one month with some natives called Kaxinawás.

Our biggest issue is always, how many CIv we can do, and who should come next.

 

[Xandinho]

I guess it is my point, Everyone just want to see him self in this game.
It is just a game after all!

I, for example, want to see black people in all corners, don't matter any history backgroud.
I would love to play as Idi Amin as alternative leader to Scotia with a bunch of Elephants and conquer the Rome, I would change the name of all my elephants to Hannibal or Gannibal.


It is just his name, I don't know who give it to him.

I just read it. The link>http://www.seminolenation-indianterritory.org/negroabraham.htm

I LIKE BALANCED GAMES!
If USA want to have a Second State, I would argue about the ACRE State from Brazil, who also was indepedent for while, they have their own unique profet and their own religion. In Brazil we often say there is more weird than Mars. But yes, there is very weird, I was there for one month with some natives called Kaxinawás.

Our biggest issue is always, how many CIv we can do, and who should come next.

Man, with all due respect to your wishes, with so many important civilizations missing from the game (Babylon, Assyria, Byzantines, Portugal, Morocco, Goths, Gauls, Siam, Vietnam - just to begin with) we definitely don't need separatist states as playable civilizations, sorry .

And please no, Acre is a meme, it's not even an important state in Brazil. Don't treat states of countries that were temporarily separated as civilizations