[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[Xandinho]

I still think Portugal is coming, they seem to give lots of fan favorites and it seems to be one of the most if not THE most requested civ.

If there is a second round of passes, it would be expected to assume that some of the big names will be saved for later, which may be the case in Portugal and Babylon.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

it's the term gaulish / gaul which is ambiguous, not Belgae

Edit : sorry, I come a little later of you answer, you are right on your statement.
Just the term Gaul have a meaning of Celts influenced by Romans, living with Romans too.
Romanized Celts is one of the meaning of Gaul.
So I expect a leader and a design which represent that. (so you can have a Belgae leader which fit with this Gaul meaning, but Ambiorix don't fit, he refuged in Germania, and his poeple were genocided by Romans)

Honestly, Vercingetorix is expected, it's the perfect pick. Fit with the modern claims of Gaulish culture, Arvernes already have long time relations with Romans, and he tried to keep his poeple independant (and we will be in Civ ). And even with his defeat, with some of the Arvernes which take part with Romans, the culture continued to live in the Empire.

we covered this earlier, but it appears that Ambiorix is the leader, based of Gaul’s capital in the game, even though Vercingatorix would’ve been better.

 

[AaronTBD]

The Biosphere and Statue of Zeus are the new wonders

From the information in the video here's what learned from it.

Biosphere (Likely the Montreal Biosphere)
Likely Modern or Atomic era.
Increases Appeal from Marshes and Rainforest.

(GS) Increases power and Tourism.
(Base and R&F) +1 Science to Marsh, Rainforest, and Woods.

"Heaven is under our feet as well as over our heads." - Henry David Thoreau


Statue of Zeus
Likely Ancient or Classical Era.
Free military units to the city that built it.
Increases production on Anti-Cavalry.

Probably requires to be adjacent to an Encampment.

"Upon the head of the god was an olive crown; In his right hand he bore a winged figure of victory" - Samuel Augustus Mitchell

 

[Xandinho]

We were assuming that the new wonders would be related to the civs or the civs region, Biosphera came to break this mith.

 

[Cywil]

As for Pack#3 it should be a game mode using R&F mechanics - different than governors probably. I hope for a civil war feature (maybe based on loyalty mechanics) similar to that from first Civ when you conquer enemy capital and then their civ split into two civs beeing at war to each other. Imagine Rome breaking into Roman civ and Byzantine civ. And BTW, at least one civ/leader in every expansion was from ancient/classical era (e.g. in R&F that was an alt ancient/classical leader for India). Why Byzantium and not Babylon? Well, I expect a second season pass so let's save some iconic Civ civs for it

So not exact the same kind of civil wars as I expected a month ago but close enough

 

[Thenewwwguy]

The Biosphere and Statue of Zeus are the new wonders

From the information in the video here's what learned from it.

Biosphere (Likely the Montreal Biosphere)
Likely Modern or Atomic era.
Increases Appeal from Marshes and Rainforest.

(GS) Increases power and Tourism.
(Base and R&F) +1 Science to Marsh, Rainforest, and Woods.

"Heaven is under our feet as well as over our heads." - Henry David Thoreau


Statue of Zeus
Likely Ancient or Classical Era.
Free military units to the city that built it.
Increases production on Anti-Cavalry.

Probably requires to be adjacent to an Encampment.

"Upon the head of the god was an olive crown; In his right hand he bore a winged figure of victory" - Samuel Augustus Mitchell

why would the biosphere be the montreal one? the more famous, larger and historically more important one would be Biosphere II in Arizona

So not exact the same kind of civil wars as I expected a month ago but close enough

functionally, this is the closest you’d get to civil wars. A civil war mechanic where you’re always the establishment would be a tad funky in civ, whereas it makes more sense in CK3 since the country exists independent of the leader (and you don’t want to lose civil wars in CK3 since that would mean you’d become less powerful if not completely out of the game) or even humankind where the player is the nation, not the leader.

 

[Guynemer]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

Dr. Bashir, or Dr. Tygan?

 

[bite]

why would the biosphere be the montreal one? the more famous, larger and historically more important one would be Biosphere II in Arizona

Because the image clearly shows the one in Montreal

Also

https://twitter.com/EdBeach23/status/1305549774125498368?s=20

 

[8housesofelixir]

why would the biosphere be the montreal one? the more famous, larger and historically more important one would be Biosphere II in Arizona

The architectural design of the Biosphere wonder is very close to the Montreal Biosphere.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

we covered this earlier, but it appears that Ambiorix is the leader, based of Gaul’s capital in the game, even though Vercingatorix would’ve been better.

Well Shaka does have Ulundi as his capital, when it should have been Bulawayo.

We were assuming that the new wonders would be related to the civs or the civs region, Biosphera came to break this mith.

Well it still is Eurocentric, Westerncentric.

 

[SirMediocrity]

Now I want Portugal to wait for the next pass so we don't get Maria the Mad.

I highly doubt we'll be getting Portugal in NF.

 

[Venceslau Pietro Pietra]

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A female leader for a islamic nation wouldn't bring problems to firaxis in middle east? Sorry for my ignorance if its not the case, also a lot of people pointed Semiramis as a mesopotamian female leader.

And for last, Portugal also has some female leaders choice like the two marias and (joking)Carlota Joaquina

 

[AaronTBD]

why would the biosphere be the montreal one? the more famous, larger and historically more important one would be Biosphere II in Arizona

For 2 reasons

1) It simply looks more like the one in Monreal

The Montreal one

Biosphere II in Arizona

The one in game

2) The è
In the Arizona one, it's called Biosphere II
In Montreal, it's called Biosphère
The reason I didn't put in the è in the first place is because I have an American keyboard.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Because the image clearly shows the one in Montreal

Also

https://twitter.com/x/status/1305549774125498368

fair enough i guess

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It unfortunately may seem as if there is a possibility that Semiramis might actually be a leader (oh god no please no)

Puduhepa, Dihya and Arwa al-Sulyahi stand as the best options for the November pack if it’s the Middle East or North Africa.

Knowing that September’s two leaders + Kublai Khan in jan are all men, and you need two more women to make it 3 (the previous number in the last two expansions), It seems quite possible that Trung Trac will be the vietnamese leader.

It also stands as a substantial possibility that we will be getting Jigonhsasee and the Iroquois

 

[Zaarin]

It unfortunately may seem as if there is a possibility that Semiramis might actually be a leader (oh god no please no)

I am going to be so ticked if our only Mesopotamian civs are led by Godlike Gilgamesh and Semiramis (and oh, look, there's Hellene number six).

It also stands as a substantial possibility that we will be getting Jigonhsasee and the Iroquois

While I've said I'd like a historical leader for the Iroquois, I will rejoice for Jigonhsasee if she spares us from Semiramis.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I am going to be so ticked if our only Mesopotamian civs are led by Godlike Gilgamesh and Semiramis (and oh, look, there's Hellene number six).


While I've said I'd like a historical leader for the Iroquois, I will rejoice for Jigonhsasee if she spares us from Semiramis.

i’d rather have no assyria than an assyria with semiramis. Please, if you want a woman leading a mesopotamian or mesopotamian adjacent civ please just give us the hittites we want them back

 

[AaronTBD]

I am going to be so ticked if our only Mesopotamian civs are led by Godlike Gilgamesh and Semiramis (and oh, look, there's Hellene number six).

I under stand Semiramis, but what's wrong with Gilgabro?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

While I've said I'd like a historical leader for the Iroquois, I will rejoice for Jigonhsasee if she spares us from Semiramis.

She'd basically be female Hiawatha, which is something I could see them doing. Better than Pocahontas for the Powhatan or Sacagawea for the Shoshone at least.

I under stand Semiramis, but what's wrong with Gilgabro?

I don't think anything is wrong with Gilgamesh, but it would be nice to have a leader for Ancient Mesopotamia/The Levant that wasn't somewhat fictionalized.

 

[AaronTBD]

She'd basically be female Hiawatha, which is something I could see them doing. Better than Pocahontas for the Powhatan or Sacagawea for the Shoshone at least.


I don't think anything is wrong with Gilgamesh, but it would be nice to have a leader for Ancient Mesopotamia/The Levant that wasn't somewhat fictionalized.

Understandable

 

[PhoenicianGold]

If it does come later in the NFP as one of the standalone packs I would argue that this might be the last content for the game. If it doesn't come in NFP I agree there might be a second season.

I still expect Portugal, if only because the season is called "New Frontier" and Portugal is the quintessential civ to put in a pack like that.

Still processing this reveal. Gaul is a choice lol. I'm glad they made it more Belgic than French, because we have enough France in the game as it is, but was Belgium ever really necessary?

I do think that this might be an indicator that a second season is planned, though. We now only have three slots for unknown civs, and still need to hit five regions from V: Portugal, Italy, Maghreb, Assyria, western US. And with the Gauls, we also have less confirmation that the devs won't try to cram the Iroquois, Denmark, or Babylon up in crowded regions.

Tbh, I'm a tad disappointed. Neither Byzantium nor Gaul were civs I really wanted, and all they do is detract from the possibility of getting more African, Southeast Asian, or North American civs. People are complaining about all the Hellenic civs, but now I feel justified in complaining about too many Roman civs. At the very least they could balance out the Gauls with Numidia at some point.

Meh. Such is the way of blockbuster titles: this DLC pack was not made for me.