[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[OmegaDestroyer]

For a brief moment, I thought you wrote Keanu Reeves and, while skeptical, was curious to see how he'd be implemented.

 

[blackcatatonic]

For a brief moment, I thought you wrote Keanu Reeves and, while skeptical, was curious to see how he'd be implemented.

This is actually a brilliant idea because:
1. Would definitely appeal to certain sections of the fanbase
2. If he's going to be in Cyberpunk I don't see why they can't add him as a Civ leader too, I mean they're both games right?
3. A new alt leader for Russia - Baba Yaga? (have a cookie if you get the reference)
4. Or more accurately, since Belarus isn't yet in the game...

 

[OmegaDestroyer]

Agenda: hates people who shoot dogs, steal cars.

 

[blackcatatonic]

Agenda: hates people who shoot dogs, steal cars.

He would also tie in very nicely with secret societies mode... OK, I'm going to stop now, before I actually convince myself

 

[King William I]

Agenda: hates people who shoot dogs, steal cars.

Agenda approval line: You're breathtaking!

 

[Guynemer]

To be fair, "Scythian" is a pretty blobby term. At the best of times, the Greeks used the term to mean specific Iranian horse nomads in Eastern Europe; at other times, they used the term to mean any Iranian horse nomads anywhere on the Eurasian steppe; at the worst of times, it just meant any horse nomads anywhere, regardless of linguistic or ethnic affiliation. The Persians' use of Saka frankly wasn't much better. I like Tomyris, even though I'm skeptical she existed, but in Civ7 I'd really like to see the Scythians replaced with the much more concrete Parthians. (Plus that would finally be a Persian dynasty other than the Achaemenids.)

Why not both? A Parthian Persia, and a more specific steppe people. Maybe Sarmatia? Could be a way to incorporate Mithradates as we've discussed in the past. Or have them led by Hypsicratea, to keep that Amazonian flavor that Tomyris brings.

 

[PhilBowles]

Gah, he's not American! He's the voice of BBC Radio Scotland!

Really? I know that in Civ V they used Canadians and Americans even for voices like Elizabeth who would have had plenty of available native speakers they could call on instead.

So what I'm picking up as Scottish in Robert's accent is a Scot trying not to sound Scottish, rather than a deliberate inflection added by a non-Scottish speaker to try and sound Scottish. That does argue against my original suggestion (though why go with a Scottish voice actor if the character isn't intended to sound Scottish?).

Thanks for the information @PhilBowles.

I'm not going to dispute anything said on the subject of accents by those who are clearly better informed, but nevertheless, I find her accent in the game incredibly jarring because it doesn't seem to fit with the character's appearance and I do think it sounds too modern. I get the stereotype thing but the funny thing is if someone said 'posh, snobbish-sounding British accent' that is not what I would have come up with. But as I say, my own accent is similar, so maybe that says more about me I think she should sound more like Elizabeth from V (who, as even I know, will not have sounded anything like that and probably ought to have spoken with more authentic early modern pronunciation).

I think that for Elizabeth in Civ V they were indeed going for exactly that stereotype - but we're a Game of Thrones and Sherlock on from Civ V and I think ideas of a stereotypical English accent are likely to have changed among Americans. People are accustomed to how people actually speak.

That said, I think I may have been assuming Civ VI followed the same philosophy in leader presentations as Civ V. As mentioned, I took Robert as an example of a deliberate effort to make him sound recognisably Scottish which he apparently wasn't (and Zaarin at least didn't recognise any Scottish in his pronunciation anyway). They may have been trying to go for something accurate for Victoria as a character, or at least recognisable from the Young Victoria film (whose lead spoke with, indeed, a middle-class RP accent).

 

[bite]

Moderator Action: Okay, how Victoria (a leader from the base game) should or should not be voiced is not the topic of this thread so it is time to move on

 

[adrifranchise]

We are expecting a big patch along with the first DLC drop on the 21st correct? And then essentially a patch every month from then to March?

 

[ehecatzin]

If my dream last night is anything to go by, we will be getting Italy, Vietnam, Kievan Rus' and Portugal.

I'd love to see their animated version of Olga of Kiev death stare.

 

[Zaarin]

Why not both? A Parthian Persia, and a more specific steppe people. Maybe Sarmatia? Could be a way to incorporate Mithradates as we've discussed in the past. Or have them led by Hypsicratea, to keep that Amazonian flavor that Tomyris brings.

How many Iranian steppe nomads do we need? One is enough for me, and Parthia is the more concrete of the two.

If my dream last night is anything to go by, we will be getting Italy, Vietnam, Kievan Rus' and Portugal.

I'll allow it, but I really need Babylon or Assyria to be in there, too.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

How many Iranian steppe nomads do we need? One is enough for me, and Parthia is the more concrete of the two.


I'll allow it, but I really need Babylon or Assyria to be in there, too.

i need that ashurbanipal library replacement

 

[Cerilis]

We are expecting a big patch along with the first DLC drop on the 21st correct? And then essentially a patch every month from then to March?

Something I have wondered about actually. We are getting a patch now, in May, but is this instead of the June patch or additionally to the June patch? How big are these patches gonna be anyway? Will this one only be fixes or also balances?

 

[Jeppetto]

I'd assume each DLC would bring expansion-like hotfix and important changes for consistency patch and the patches between DLCs would be more content-focused.

 

[cosmicmangobear]

For a brief moment, I thought you wrote Keanu Reeves and, while skeptical, was curious to see how he'd be implemented.

Unique Unit: Pencil

I'd love to see their animated version of Olga of Kiev death stare.

Unique Unit: Pigeon

 

[Lord Lakely]

One of Assyria / Babylon is definitely making it into the game lol. The only way they would get snubbed would be if Firaxis decided to introduce a new civ from the same area (Akkadia, Armenia, Elam, Judea) or slam us out of nowhere with the Hittites. Of the two, Assyria is more likely, since Babylon and Akkad are city states (though they could be replaced with Nineveh and Ashur respectively without a hitch)

Like, I'm *more* certain of Assyria/Babylon that I am of Portugal and Byzantium making it into the game with the New Frontier Pass.

as for the new Civs... I expect a European Civ (Gaul, Bulgaria, Italy, Ireland, Goths), an Asian or middle-eastern Civ (Vietnam, Akkadia, Judea, Tatars/Timurids, Malaysya) and a tribal civ of sorts (Navajo, an aboriginal tribe, Ashanti/Benin/Dahomey, Tlingit)

I'd say we're looking at something like this, perhaps?

- Assyria
- Vietnam
- Portugal or Byzantium
- Navajo
- Some celtic or germanic civ (Gaul, Ireland, (Visi)goths)*
- Kublai Khan

*Goths could actually fill the gaps in italy quite nicely if they're led by Ordoacer, even though Pelagius and Alaric seem like better choices to me.

 

[alancsilver]

I'm surprised that there is no pre-order for these items on steam yet

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Agenda: hates people who shoot dogs, steal cars.

I'm pretty sure his agenda is to kidnap all of the other leaders in order to finish his history report.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

i need that ashurbanipal library replacement

Too me it makes more sense as his unique Govt. Plaza building opening up room for an Encampment replacement or building in the Encampment for Assyria.
If you are interested here I recently made a design for them on this page: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/design-your-own-civ-vi-civ.572811/page-39

I'm still a believer that Scotland is supposed to be the "Celts" this time even if they don't resemble or have any "Celtic" traits.
Though if they do I can see Gaul being the most probable. With Scotland in the game I don't see Ireland showing up or the Iceni.

 

[Zaarin]

I'm still a believer that Scotland is supposed to be the "Celts" this time even if they don't resemble or have any "Celtic" traits.
Though if they do I can see Gaul being the most probable. With Scotland in the game I don't see Ireland showing up or the Iceni.

It's unfortunate, but I have to agree. Civ6's Scotland is transparently Anglo-Norman, but it nevertheless seems to be intended to be "the Celtic civ." I would have preferred Ireland, but I don't think having both Ireland and Scotland makes sense. I'm still crossing my fingers for the Gauls, but with so few civ slots left I'm skeptical.