[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

Honestly i don't know in which Civ could you put her even but can we get Lady Dimitrescu as a leader? I feel like that's important
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She's an 8-foot-tall vampire from a horror video game not based on real events, and because of that, she is not suitable as a Civ Leader.
 
Well I am of the opinion that Hawaii would probably need to be more wayfaring civ than the Maori which is why I don't see them, or any other Pacific Islander culture, getting in. :p

That being said the Maori already have pretty good tourism bonuses and sort of a pacifist strategy, at least in terms of them being the environmentalist civ, not the Haka War Dancing Toa part.

And if we are talking about a volcano bias it should go to the Maori too because Aotearoa is the home of Mt. Doom. :mischief:
I think if Hawaii makes it into Civ 6, they should maybe be more focus on "modernization" that the Hawaii monarchs did to mimic european influence, while retaining their Polynesian cultural roots; the Hawaii mod that is availble does a good job at that, giving the Kaimiloa unique naval unit, but maybe it would be cool if they got bonuses from settling ad building district in volcanic soil.
 
I love that you theorize as much as I do. :w00t:

This is basically in-line with my observation that we effectively have four slots that were built out in previous games that have not returned or been replaced: Portugal, a Maghrebi civ, a western US civ, and an Italian civ.

If we ended at NFP, I believe this would be the first game in the series not to return or at least slant out/refine every region from the previous game, with the exception of the Hittites.

I'm also presuming this analysis doesn't include Gran Colombia or Vietnam? I count a total of seven ascended/unique civs, possibly six if we entertain the idea that the Mapuche are really just a heavily geographically shifted Shoshone slot.

It does. I’m just a moron and posted a previous iteration of the chart while half asleep.

Corrected chart is attached.

Portugal would break the generally adhered to pattern, though it’s not uh...“illegal” for them to do so, I guess. The Shoshone are still the only group to be missing even City-State slanted representation.

And before someone suggests Cahokia, again, they’re seemingly a “permanent” City-State.
 

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maybe it would be cool if they got bonuses from settling ad building district in volcanic soil.

It would be cool to have a civ that mirrored Egypt's flood immunity but for volcanoes.
 
I'm not convinced of this argument. Wilhelmina is in the game as leader of the Netherlands. England under Eleanor is hardly its heyday.

I mean the Angevin Empire is probably the first time England was a significant power in Europe, but then it's not like Eleanor actually ruled it, other than her personal domains in Aquitaine (plus, there was nothing very English about that composite state anyway given court was usually held in France).

With Maria II the problem is partly that we are talking about a leader of a declined Portugal, and partly that I don't think there would really be much interest in seeing her in the game outside this forum. But I suppose her being picked wouldn't be that surprising, you're right. To be honest I have no interest in the dual-civ leader thing. So I wish they had, instead of Kublai Khan, added a female alt leader there to meet their intended quota of female leaders.
 
I mean the Angevin Empire is probably the first time England was a significant power in Europe, but then it's not like Eleanor actually ruled it, other than her personal domains in Aquitaine (plus, there was nothing very English about that composite state anyway given court was usually held in France).

With Maria II the problem is partly that we are talking about a leader of a declined Portugal, and partly that I don't think there would really be much interest in seeing her in the game outside this forum. But I suppose her being picked wouldn't be that surprising, you're right. To be honest I have no interest in the dual-civ leader thing. So I wish they had, instead of Kublai Khan, added a female alt leader there to meet their intended quota of female leaders.

Does that mean it can be argued that Aquitaine exists as a Civilization in the game? :crazyeye:
 
It does. I’m just a moron and posted a previous iteration of the chart while half asleep.

Corrected chart is attached.

Portugal would break the generally adhered to pattern, though it’s not uh...“illegal” for them to do so, I guess. The Shoshone are still the only group to be missing even City-State slanted representation.

And before someone suggests Cahokia, again, they’re seemingly a “permanent” City-State.
At this point it doesn't matter considering in your chart we got both Gran Colombia and Vietnam that ascended from city-states. Also where's Nubia?

That being said if Portugal does come, I would argue that the Mapuche could have taken the "Shoshone" slot as the other Native American civ. The only difference is they are located in South America.
 
Does that mean it can be argued that Aquitaine exists as a Civilization in the game? :crazyeye:
I'd say there's a pretty good argument (if one wanted to make one) for balkanizing France...though I'd pick Brittany or Normandy over Aquitaine to be the one to do it. That being said, I don't think France is in urgent need of balkanization. :p
 
The Celts are a blob in the context of Civilization, but I wouldn't call them a blob in the context of Humankind, which focuses on cultures rather than civilizations.
in the classical era celts were hardly a cultural blob though. I doubt Boudicca and Vercingatorix would recognize each other as one and the same

Back in December 2018 my preferences for another round of civs was:

  • Maya (Confirmed)
  • Argentina/Colombia (Confirmed)
  • Byzantium (Confirmed)
  • Portugal
  • Ethiopia (Confirmed)
  • Vietnam (Confirmed)
  • Morocco/Moors
  • Babylon (confirmed)
  • Ramsesses/Hapshepsut/Kublai(of China and Mongolia) (Confirmed, but with three guesses do I get a full point or fractional? Bonus fractional for the dual civ, which wasn't certain?)
Right now, 7 are confirmed (albeit with Gran Colombia and Kublai arguably being not full points), and only 1 non wish (in the Gauls, who I'm not upset about). I think I've got a decent shot at Portugal, though I would prefer a Native North American (non-MesoAmerican) culture as well.

Ultimately, I could see a solid basis for another round of civs (which I hope for, but consider very unlikely), consisting of:
  • Portugal
  • Moors/Morrocco
  • Native North American culture
  • Assyria
  • Bulgaria/Armenia (I highly doubt both, even if they're quite different)
  • Afghanistan
  • Austria/Denmark (neither overly likely due to Hungary and Norway, but reasonably possible due to name brand anyhow)
  • Australasian/Southeast Asian culture
  • Phillipines
  • Ramesses/Hapshepsut
Minus any one that makes it into NFP.

This would be a weaker batch, with a lot more uncertainty, but definitely enough for me to desire it. Honorable mentions of desirables that probably wouldn't be included are Tibet and Israel.
not getting Afghanistan, Ghaznavids, Chola or Phillippines hurt a bit. I didn’t expect any of them, but I really wanted them
 
in the classical era celts were hardly a cultural blob though. I doubt Boudicca and Vercingatorix would recognize each other as one and the same
The Gauls called themselves Keltoi, and that's clearly who the Celts of Humankind are with their Gaesati and Nemeton. Also depending on whom you ask, Gaulish and Brythonic may or may not have been a dialect continuum (I lean towards not, but there is scholarship on both sides).
 
not getting Afghanistan, Ghaznavids, Chola or Phillippines hurt a bit. I didn’t expect any of them, but I really wanted them

I think Philippines is a possibility since they would be a new civ giving the NFP a 4/4 balance of new and returning plus I feel like the greater Pacific Ocean area is the only one not represented in the pass yet either.
 
I think Philippines is a possibility since they would be a new civ giving the NFP a 4/4 balance of new and returning plus I feel like the greater Pacific Ocean area is the only one not represented in the pass yet either.
Isn’t the Philippines still considered SEA though? Considering we just got Vietnam from the same region feel like it’s not likely.
 
Isn’t the Philippines still considered SEA though? Considering we just got Vietnam from the same region feel like it’s not likely.

I feel like that's one of those thing you could call either way as far as Civ6 goes.
 
It's Darius, I bet my life on it!
We already got the alternate Leader, and there's also the fact that Firaxis has a 1:3 ratio for female and male Leaders, respectively. So I don't think it's Darius, mate. Sorry.
 
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