College Football 2009

[Azale]

Ah... Yeah, you're right.

But VaTech, iirc, is pretty much going to the Chik-Fil-A Bowl no matter what happens, so that's not such a big deal. What really irks me about all this, is that if GaTech wins, Miami gets bumped from the Gator bowl to probably the Champs Bowl or the Music City Bowl. That's total BS.

Why does FSU get rewarded with a January 1st bowl game for going 6 - 6?

At first I was going to laugh because "lol bowls", but then I thought...that really is kinda ridiculous. Miami is probably going to end the year in the top 15, will have beaten FSU, and it's not like Miami isn't a big name program.

Does Miami not travel well compared to FSU? Or is this ALL about Bowden's last game?

 

[downtown]

Miami does not travel well *at all*. Of the top 15 "name' programs in the country, Miami travels the worst.

 

[RedFusion]

Link

Catlett said he got a phone call Monday afternoon from FSU President T.K. Wetherell, right before Catlett was going into a Gator Bowl meeting to talk about the teams to be invited to this year’s game.

“He said, ‘Would you be interested in hosting Bobby Bowden’s last game?’ ” Catlett said.

Catlett said they would, but because of contractual obligations has to have the Chick-fil-A Bowl take Virginia Tech, which has a better record than FSU. Under the Gator Bowl’s contract with the ACC, the bowl, which has the third pick of ACC teams, can take a team with one fewer conference win than the best available team, but not two or more fewer wins. Virginia Tech finished 6-2 in conference play while FSU was 4-4.

Virginia Tech is all but guaranteed to go to the Chick-fil-A Bowl, Catlett said, based on the stated intentions of Chick-fil-A Bowl officials.

That should free up the Gator Bowl to take FSU, Catlett said, because another provision in the contract states that the Gator Bowl does not have to take the loser of the Dec. 5 conference championship game, which pits 6-2 Clemson and 7-1 Georgia Tech. Catlett said that in a conversation with ACC officials, they were unaware of the provision because they were looking at an old contract.

“They said, ‘We can’t find that. Can you fax it to us?’ They have it now,” Catlett said.

I'm sorry but I feel like the Gator Bowl President is ******** or something. He can't take a team with 2 or more fewer wins than the best available team. Even if VT is taken by the Peach Bowl, that still leaves the loser of the ACCCG, GT or Clemson, both at least 2 wins better than the Seminoles. Am I missing something here?

 

[pawpaw]

Mangino out at Kansas

 

[emzie]

Oregon / Oregon St has been fantastic.

 

[Azale]

Yea, I'm having a fun time watching to see who will get the honor of destroying OSU in the Rose Bowl.

 

[Earthling]

Well, I'm going to have to stick by the fact that Oregon just isn't that good, they pulled this one off to win the chaotic PAC-10 (well, they're ahead of the ACC at least), but I'll be onboard with all those who I know are Buckeyes fans here for the Rose. Can't say the past couple games haven't been exciting, in fact Oregon has provided a streak of close and interesting games, so there is that.

 

[emzie]

Earthling, I don't actually know who yer team is >.<

Well other than hating Texas.

 

[RedFusion]

Yea, I'm having a fun time watching to see who will get the honor of destroying OSU in the Rose Bowl.

Interestingly enough Ohio State is 7-0 against Oregon, including a Rose Bowl victory. That makes them 9-0 against teams from the state of Oregon. So I wouldn't be getting your hopes up too much on the Buckeyes getting destroyed in this game.

Just to broaden the point, Oregon has struggled tremendously against big name out of conference opponents throughout its history; it's 1-6 against Oklahoma, 1-4 vs. Nebraska, 1-4 vs. Texas, 1-3 vs. Penn State, 1-3 vs. Wisky, 0-1 vs. ND, and 0-2 vs. Boise State, just to give you an idea. There performances on the big stage have been tremendously underwhelming. The only big name BCS OOC team that they've had any success against is Michigan, where they are 2-3.

 

[Kraznaya]

Interestingly enough Ohio State is 7-0 against Oregon, including a Rose Bowl victory. That makes them 9-0 against teams from the state of Oregon. So I wouldn't be getting your hopes up too much on the Buckeyes getting destroyed in this game.

Yeah, the Midwest was vaguely an important region of the country sometime in distant memory too...

 

[RedFusion]

Yeah, the Midwest was vaguely an important region of the country sometime in distant memory too...

The Midwest shall rise again!!!

 

[Azale]

Interestingly enough Ohio State is 7-0 against Oregon, including a Rose Bowl victory. That makes them 9-0 against teams from the state of Oregon. So I wouldn't be getting your hopes up too much on the Buckeyes getting destroyed in this game.

Just to broaden the point, Oregon has struggled tremendously against big name out of conference opponents throughout its history; it's 1-6 against Oklahoma, 1-4 vs. Nebraska, 1-4 vs. Texas, 1-3 vs. Penn State, 1-3 vs. Wisky, 0-1 vs. ND, and 0-2 vs. Boise State, just to give you an idea. There performances on the big stage have been tremendously underwhelming. The only big name BCS OOC team that they've had any success against is Michigan, where they are 2-3.

Most of that is pretty ancient history, especially the OSU-Oregon all time record. And OSU's performance on the big stage recently has been pathetic, they scored 6 points against the team Oregon ran out the building (USC).

To be honest, I wouldn't mind OSU winning, I just can't see it.

 

[emzie]

Most of that is pretty ancient history, especially the OSU-Oregon all time record. And OSU's performance on the big stage recently has been pathetic, they scored 6 points against the team Oregon ran out the building (USC).

To be honest, I wouldn't mind OSU winning, I just can't see it.

Uh, like, they scored 15 which is like totally different.

 

[Earthling]

USC has not been that good this year though - and it definitely seems to me that Ohio State has continually stepped up their performance throughout the season, particularly finding their offense. The whole PAC-10 (they're not alone on this, to be sure, before I continue) seem to have pretty weak defenses and Oregon isn't an exception - I'd expect Oregon won't be able to run up the scores they're used to, and Ohio State would be favored. Not that this won't be close or exciting, I certainly wouldn't peg it more than a 2/3 chance. The other Big 10 school, if one goes to a BCS bowl, would also do pretty well I'd think, at least unless they face a very top #3 or #4 team (say Texas loses the Big12 or they somehow face the SEC loser. But Big10 versus ACC or Boise or something would be a good matchup for that Big 10 school, imo)

Also, I figure I might be honest about that other question contre, though I thought things evident enough from my posts. I'm still confused about other posters like Kraznaya who seemed to deny having that Cylon avatar when I mentioned it before, and now it's back! At least you didn't somehow get misled into thinking I had some deep-seated rivalry with Auburn, though they do suck this year. The truth is I don't have much to brag about since my team hasn't had a good season, but I've still seen the major contests - I think it was in this thread when I mentioned an epic match that surpassed anything else that week. So I remain a Samsung Khan supporter, boom or bust as it may be

 

[Azale]

Yea, whatever Earthling, no team is ever good ever, I understand. I won't let anything get in the way of your 5 year old misconceptions about the Pac-10.

And Oregon will most definitely be favored, considering that higher ranking and impressive performances recently on national tv.

 

[RedFusion]

In a strange way, I find it amusing that Pitt is going to beat Cincy and leave the Bearcats having to go to the Gator. This will leave the infinitely uninteresting matchup of 11-1 Cincy vs. 6-6 FSU in the Gator.

 

[bestrfcplayer]

In a strange way, I find it amusing that Pitt is going to beat Cincy and leave the Bearcats having to go to the Gator. This will leave the infinitely uninteresting matchup of 11-1 Cincy vs. 6-6 FSU in the Gator.

Let's see. Who'll win that one. Oh wait, its CINCY!

 

[Azale]

In a strange way, I find it amusing that Pitt is going to beat Cincy and leave the Bearcats having to go to the Gator.

Amazing game. The Big East plays football now, I guess.

 

[Earthling]

Yea, whatever Earthling, no team is ever good ever, I understand.

The thing is, I keep on being right. Though it probably would have helped my case if I had changed my pick to East Carolina last night, as I was really thinking about (I would have if I had noticed somebody else had picked them, good call pacesplace), but just goes to show again - Houston is one of those teams that's not that good this year, and I'd been saying that all along.

Otherwise, I'll let you keep your 4-year-old misconceptions of Texas winning the national championship, maybe if things go right you can even hold onto those hopes after tonight until you're crushed by Alabama (btw, Alabama is a team who's not just good but great this year, it's not like I don't recognize success when I see it. And most of the top ten are good, Texas is too, but I don't see many who are great and only a couple with potential to prove it by season's end. TCU certainly could be the greatest team in Texas though, and I still think the PAC-10 will bring home a streak of bowl losses if they're matched up against any other decent programs from the other major conferences. This year really is full of medium-good teams all close to each other in skill, despite all the hype.)

Edit: Cinncy v. Pitt was a good game, and you can hardly blame posters for commenting back when Pitt was up 21 points.... Though this certainly doesn't make a good case for the Bearcats in the NC game.

 

[emzie]

Amazing game. The Big East plays football now, I guess.

Hell of a finish.