You realize that if I'd been born in the UK, I'd almost assuredly be an ardent Loyalist / Monarchist / whatever the correct term is, yes?
Conservativism I can comprehend. It's the American conservative subculture I don't understand. Like, plenty of Americans are just normal people who hold conservative opinions, your Bshup-es and suchlike, and I can understand them and where they're coming from. But there's also a certain portion of the population, about ten, maybe twenty percent, who live in this distinct, seemingly enclosed subculture with its own set of political, ethical and aesthetic assumptions, and that seems to be the perspective the test is written from. The closest equivalent I can think to in the UK are the Loyalists, who nobody would mistake for typical or even representative of mainstream British conservative opinion. It's not a way of thinking I can get myself into without suspending my own identity and beliefs, without inventing a character and answering as he would answer, which would render the test pretty pointless.
But would you still hate Kansas?
Nah, I don't think so. A good flag-waving monarchist, I don't doubt, but the basic thread running through your politics is scepticism towards innovation, authority and mass society, conservatism in a much truer sense than the bellowing Evangelical, and I don't think that lines up with the boggle-eyed populism of the Loyalist tradition.You realize that if I'd been born in the UK, I'd almost assuredly be an ardent Loyalist / Monarchist / whatever the correct term is, yes?
Basically, yeah. It's not just people who are reaching different conclusion, but people who are starting in wildly different places, so understanding their thinking requires, in the first place, that you abstract yourself out of yourself, and in the second, requires a degree of deliberate effort which you're not going to make for every little subculture on the planet.I think I see, like my confusion regarding the people who could read books by Ann Coulter and take them seriously.
Nah, I don't think so. A good flag-waving monarchist, I don't doubt, but the basic thread running through your politics is scepticism towards innovation, authority and mass society, conservatism in a much truer sense than the bellowing Evangelical, and I don't think that lines up with the boggle-eyed populism of the Loyalist tradition.
I mean, if you were Scottish, I'd bet good money that you'd vote SNP, because despite their centre-left position, they're in a lot of ways the truest conservative party around, in that they're conserved with the conservation of traditional communities, cultures and ways of life, rather than just the preservation of authority, and that's much more in strongly in line with the sort of attitudes I read in your posts than whatever neoliberal crap Cameron is pushing this week.
Yeah, I should have remembered that in a North American context, "loyalist" just means "monarchist". Over here, it specifically describes the populist, Orange, call-the-Pope-the-antichrist-to-his-actual-face subculture most prevalent in Ulster, Scotland and parts of England.Oops. Okay, you can mark that one up to me being confused about your political terms over there. I always thought loyalist was just another word for monarchist. God Save The Queen is what I was trying to convey.![]()
I probably would not care about it one way or the other. Herefordshire, on the other hand...![]()
Do you mean "Say hello to my sister, we've been married about ten years now" Arkansas?![]()
Heh, yeah but South Iowa is MY rural midwestern State. I'm not gonna trash talk my own place.![]()