Creation vs Evolution

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I belive in evolution.

Wait! "I" "believe" in "evolution". Evolution is a kind of religion? Wha did you mean "creation vs evolution"? I think "c" and "e" are the different things that do not influence each other at all, they cannot be compared. Would you explain what exactly did you mean?
 
Isn't there room for both? Could God have taken monkeys and given them the gift on intelligence and problem solving, thereby creating man?

That is what I believe.

CG
 
Originally posted by Bifrost


Wait! "I" "believe" in "evolution". Evolution is a kind of religion? Wha did you mean "creation vs evolution"?

Fine. He can say he believes at evolution instead. :p
 
Originally posted by Bifrost


Wait! "I" "believe" in "evolution". Evolution is a kind of religion? Wha did you mean "creation vs evolution"? I think "c" and "e" are the different things that do not influence each other at all, they cannot be compared. Would you explain what exactly did you mean?

I think what he means is: are you a Bible literalist (God created the world in 7 days) or do you believe that man came about by totally random means?

As I said, there IS room for both evolution and creationism. We have had many discussions about this, and my theory is the one my Catholic Religion class came up with.

CG
 
Ahhhhhhh! Got it. But there's still a kind of a contradiction. Evolution Theory explains the development of species, but doesn't say anything about how the life appeared on the Earth. The evolutionism and creationism existed without any contradictions for a long period of time (remember Lamark), because the first explained one thing and the second - another one.
 
I am a complete and total evolutionist, we naturally came from a simian ancestor millions of years ago
 
I am a literal creationist. God created the earth and everything in it.
 
Originally posted by Bifrost
Ahhhhhhh! Got it. But there's still a kind of a contradiction. Evolution Theory explains the development of species, but doesn't say anything about how the life appeared on the Earth. The evolutionism and creationism existed without any contradictions for a long period of time (remember Lamark), because the first explained one thing and the second - another one.

Well life started according to many biologist as simple prokariat cells, with no nucleus, a simple jumple of of proteins, lipids and cytoplasm caused from the massive geological and chemical upheavels caused by the earth's constant volcanic eruptions and geological activity at the time
 
Well life started according to many biologist as simple prokariat cells, with no nucleus, a simple jumple of of proteins, lipids and cytoplasm caused from the massive geological and chemical upheavels caused by the earth's constant volcanic eruptions and geological activity at the time

SIMPLE? Dmnt, how can you say 'simple'? Such unique conditions can hardly ever be found anywhere else in the universe. The thing you call "simple" is unbelieveable! Can you imagine that some beings that breathe, walk, eat, etc (I'm not speakin about "thinking") can appear from some proteins, some strange liquid, or pieces of glycerine and some nucleine acids? Unbelieveable!!! can you Imagine that some acid contains the information? Yes, we know how it is written in DNA, but how can we unite the usual definition of information with some chemical reactions. Simple? Let' s admire the wisdom of nature together. The knowledge of mankind is not still enough to say that the things nature has done are simple.
 
Originally posted by Bifrost
Ahhhhhhh! Got it. But there's still a kind of a contradiction. Evolution Theory explains the development of species, but doesn't say anything about how the life appeared on the Earth. The evolutionism and creationism existed without any contradictions for a long period of time (remember Lamark), because the first explained one thing and the second - another one.

Hotdog fish is completely correct, but he forgot to add that some sort of extraterristrial object, such as a comit, may have brought the needed organic compounds to earth in order for life to evolve.
 
Originally posted by Bifrost


Such unique conditions can hardly ever be found anywhere else in the universe.

400 billionish stars in our galaxy.
400 billionish galxies.

(4e9)(4e9) = 1.6e19 stars

Each with their own solar systems. I'm sure there are millions of civilizations out there, all in various stages of evolution.
 
Originally posted by newfangle


400 billionish stars in our galaxy.
400 billionish galxies.

(4e9)(4e9) = 1.6e19 stars

Each with their own solar systems. I'm sure there are millions of civilizations out there, all in various stages of evolution.

Actually there is a famous formula:

a*b*c*d*e*f*g*h*i*j*k*l=m

Chances of stars on the zone of galaxies similar to ous*chances of stars with the right temperature to support solar systems*chances of pre-solar systems that can support Earth-like planets*chances of earth-like planets that form*chances of hese earth-like planets that have water*chances of these earth-like planets that have the temperature to support water and oxygen*the chances of proteins and simple life evolving from primordial soup*the chances of these primitive organisms evolving into tool using animals*the chances of these tool using animals evolving into civilizations*the chances of these civilizations evolving to the point of the radio*the chances of these civilizitions not destroying themselves (nuclear weapons)*the chances of these civiliations not being destroyed by natural disasters=the chance of us coming into contact with an alien civilization

That is not the exact formula, but it is similar. Shows you the chances of us coming into contact with an alien race are EXTREMELY low.

CG

Edit: Inserted "chances of" in places I forgot to insert them.
 
Originally posted by Bifrost


SIMPLE? Dmnt, how can you say 'simple'? Such unique conditions can hardly ever be found anywhere else in the universe. The thing you call "simple" is unbelieveable! Can you imagine that some beings that breathe, walk, eat, etc (I'm not speakin about "thinking") can appear from some proteins, some strange liquid, or pieces of glycerine and some nucleine acids? Unbelieveable!!! can you Imagine that some acid contains the information? Yes, we know how it is written in DNA, but how can we unite the usual definition of information with some chemical reactions. Simple? Let' s admire the wisdom of nature together. The knowledge of mankind is not still enough to say that the things nature has done are simple.

Simple in a biological term, prokaryots are simple cells with no nucleus and few organelles while Eukaryotic cells (modern bacteria for example are modern prokaryotes which are more advanced cells HAVE nucleus and more organelles. And well cells are pretty damn simple, I'm looking at diagrams of them right now, [insert condencending tone of voice] and did you know that people are made of cells [end condencending sounding voice], remember the most advanced, intellegent animals are made of the smallest life forms
and I don't agree with Newfangle on that wacky improbable idea of comits effecting life on this planet
 
Originally posted by cgannon64


:lol:

The comical effects of turning the spoken word into the written word.

:lol:

CG

Can YOU do any better, Mr. Smarty Pants? ;) :crazyeye: :lol:
 
That is not the exact formula, but it is similar. Shows you the chances of us coming into contact with an alien race are EXTREMELY low.

Yes, but the size of our universe is EXTREMELY large, and btw, we do not know what is there outside it. So there is some probability of life on other planets.
 
Originally posted by cgannon64

Shows you the chances of us coming into contact with an alien race are EXTREMELY low.

I don't take that formula very seriously, but actually it is usually used to show that there many possibilities for extraterrestrial life.
 
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