Crusader Kings 2

New DLC announced, and this one looks like their biggest one yet. "Old Gods", it is.

Link: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods

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Europe is in turmoil. The land has been fragmented into petty fiefdoms, the Emperor struggles with the Pope, and the Holy Father declares that all those who go to liberate the Holy Land will be freed of their sins. Now is the time for greatness.
Description

Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods, the fourth expansion for the critically praised strategy/RPG, finally enables you to play as a Pagan or Zoroastrian ruler, with particular focus on the dreaded Vikings and their tradition of pillage and adventure.
Crusader Kings II explores one of the defining periods in world history in an experience crafted by Paradox Development Studio, the masters of Strategy. Medieval Europe comes to life in this game of knights, schemes and thrones.
Features

Play as a Pagan chieftain and ravage your weak neighbors. If you remain at peace for too long, your people will grow restless...
New special start date in 867 AD: The Viking Rurik has founded the kingdom of Rus and the Great Heathen Army under the sons of Ragnar Lodbrok rampages through England.
Play as a Zoroastrian lord and restore your ancient religion to prominence.
Adventurers: Landless characters can gather armies and go off to carve out new realms on their own.
Prepared Invasions: Declare your intention to invade and watch your armies grow with adventurers and restless warriors, but don't wait too long to start your war or it might all fall apart...
Rebels with a Cause: Rebels are no longer a faceless menace – they are now led by characters with agendas.
Loot and pillage provinces. Burn down their cities and take their gold!
Sacrifice to Odin at the great Blot!
Christians and Muslims can dispatch missions to convert the depraved heathens.
New beautiful Pagan interface skin.
New events and decisions: berserkers, sejdr, curses, omens, divinations, runestones and much more.


My main concerns are how the heck will they balance the 867 start date with the super-blob Abbasids, and how the heck will they fill in all the characters for the 867 start (I'm assuming there will be craploads of fake characters, which is a pity). Otherwise, it seems to be an all-pagan DLC, which is nice. I would have preferred a 1000 start date, which is still more appropriate to CKII's timeline, but oh well, good enough - can't complain about new stuff too much.
 
New DLC announced, and this one looks like their biggest one yet. "Old Gods", it is.

Link: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods

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My main concerns are how the heck will they balance the 867 start date with the super-blob Abbasids, and how the heck will they fill in all the characters for the 867 start (I'm assuming there will be craploads of fake characters, which is a pity). Otherwise, it seems to be an all-pagan DLC, which is nice. I would have preferred a 1000 start date, which is still more appropriate to CKII's timeline, but oh well, good enough - can't complain about new stuff too much.
Us beta slaves are hard at work researching....
 
Dark Ages best ages.

I can't wait to start as a Zoroastrian. Were there still any countries who worshiped Zoroaster in the 800s and 900s?
 
Yes! YES! 1169 year megacampaign, here I come!

AA: I don't believe so. The only place you'd find those would be Persia, and that was Tahirid/Saffarid/Ghaznavid and therefore Islamic. You'd have to go back another 200 years at least.
Now, I'm not sure about individual sheikhdoms (or whatever), there might have been Zoroastrian lords.
 
Figured as much.

Guess I'll have to bring fire as well as sexy back.
 
I took a class on Zoroastrianism last quarter, and apparently historically a large proportion - possibly even the majority of the commoners and possibly even the lower nobility - were Zoroastrian up to around 1000 CE. In fact according to my professor there was a very clear and sharp difference in terms of Persian names around 1000 CE - before then most Persian names still were old-school ones from the pre-Islamic era, such as names from Zoroastrian mythology or the Sassanid era, while after that the number of names we'd associate with Islam (Mohammed, etc.) increases a crapload.
 
Like what, King Xerxes Gilgamesh?

Gilgamesh isn't Persian. ;)

But yes, like Xerxes - except the Persian form.

Basically if I remember correctly my professor was talking about how historians track down names of various family members (based I think on commercial transactions or the like), and you get stuff like this, in terms of each generation's successive names.

Dariush --> Kurush --> Peroz --> Mohammed --> Ahmed --> Said

Pretty obvious what happened there.
 
Same general area. :p

I don't see where Said comes from, unless they're named after a port.
 
I think the point there is that "Sa'id" is Arabic, not specifically Muslim.
 
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