Crusader Kings 2

[Daedwartin]

Granting titles also helps you from a prestige perspective. You as the ruler receive the prestige for your directly-held territories and vassals, but you also want to build up your kids' prestige by giving them titles so when they ascend to the throne, they receive the diplomatic bonus. Also, you get penalized in primogeniture if your kids don't hold titles.

If you want to conquer territories with your warlord, make sure you fabricate titles only when needed and then usurp the duchies. It saves on prestige and money in the long run.

Just remember do not ever give the successor even a barony, to keep control of their actions. This is important as you also want to keep his heirs well educated, and control his wife. He needs to be in your court for him to be forced to accept your choice for these. Meaning his first son should only be educated by you.

 

[Arakhor]

Which doesn't work if you're marrying titled noblewomen into your family. Either you land your son or off he goes into her court.

 

[Double A]

I've started marrying for stats rather than land, because when I pick out the best parcel of land I can get at the time, it's usually a pittance when I'm ready to inherit it.

 

[Robert FIN]

Oh no... I tried to get my son in law (Emperor's big brother but born outside the marriage) to the crown through a faction and when I had about 100% power of the Emperor's army, I declared war on him (because he didn't give the crown to his half-brother without a fight). However, it seems like he invited some really big allies against me so I lost even though I hired 5000 mercenary warriors... I had to take -200 prestige hit, which isn't a big deal because I just got 200 prestige from marrying the Emperors mommy ! The other punishment was not so cool: The Emperor took me to his prisoner.. Now I'm at the dungeons..

What does this actually mean? I tried to search and got some info but I'm still confused about what I cannot do now from the prison? Can I declare wars? I guess that I can't join factions. What else?

Thanks

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Do you continue ruling your kingdom from the dungeons? I guess that is not historically very accurated.

 

[scheva007]

why do good rulers always die at 30......

 

[Civ'ed]

Do you continue ruling your kingdom from the dungeons? I guess that is not historically very accurated.

you get a regent until you are released.
I think you can ransom yourself but that's it.

 

[Robert FIN]

Yes, thanks! I was able to pay myself to freedom. Now I didn't have to die in the cell ! But Theodoros Gavras died in the age of 69 to the great pox. Now his heir Gregorios takes over but because of the stupid gavelkind succession law, his lil' brother Konstantinos will get the Duchy of Armeniacon... and he is not my vassal now...

 

[Double A]

why do good rulers always die at 30......

Because you aren't a savescummer.

 

[cybrxkhan]

New CKII DLC has been announced, called "Way of Life", seems to be focusing on RPG features, particularly relationships.

Announcement from the forums:

Hi everyone,

Today we’re announcing that we’re in the midst of developing something new for Crusader Kings II, a project that will allow you to get even deeper into the role-playing aspects of the game. Way of Life, the next DLC for CK2, will let you become a better (or worse!) ruler and grant you more power over personal relationships than ever before.

Sure, it’s nice to have someone cozy up to you and be your lover while you’re sitting atop the throne, but what if you could choose who to seduce? Or, after getting into that relationship on the side, what if you discover that you just need some space and had a way to break it off? You know, without having your soon-to-be ex-lover assassinated. These things and much more, including hundreds of new events, are coming to Way of Life.

With every piece of DLC, we always issue a patch for the vanilla game that allows everyone to take advantage of the changes being made to CK2, and this will be no different EXCEPT this particular time we’re asking for your assistance by helping us test out the patch ahead of the launch of Way of Life. The beta test will begin next week and we’ll have more details on how to fabricate a claim to beta test soon, so be on the lookout.

- Paradox Development Studio & Paradox Interactive

While I'd normally be very happy with this sort of DLC similar to SoA, as opposed to a timeline or map expansion, I frankly feel very, very apprehensive about the whole thing because 1) it was announced so soon after CM was just released; and, 2) their planned beta patch system just seems a bit off to me (how will it even work? will it be like steam early access or some sort of pre-order bonus or something?), I understand they don't want a buggy mess like almost all the other major DLCs caused, but why couldn't they better utilize their actual beta testers (as I've heard the current devs really haven't been utilizing their beta testers)?

Well, we'll see how this goes. RPG-focused stuff is always nice, I've always preferred that anyways.

 

[madviking]

this might be an xp i'll get on launch day.

 

[Arakhor]

I'm a bit surprised that they're (pre?) announcing this so early.

 

[Antilogic]

this might be an xp i'll get on launch day.

I'll definitely consider it, both on content and since it looks like it will be better-tested than the other ones.

 

[SouthernKing]

This is really, really nice. I always saw and played CK2 as more an RPG than a strategy game so more of this is wonderful.

 

[madviking]

I'll definitely consider it, both on content and since it looks like it will be better-tested than the other ones.

i hope it's also something that will be noticeable immediately after installing it.

 

[Double A]

New CKII DLC has been announced, called "Way of Life", seems to be focusing on RPG features, particularly relationships.

Announcement from the forums:






While I'd normally be very happy with this sort of DLC similar to SoA, as opposed to a timeline or map expansion, I frankly feel very, very apprehensive about the whole thing because 1) it was announced so soon after CM was just released; and, 2) their planned beta patch system just seems a bit off to me (how will it even work? will it be like steam early access or some sort of pre-order bonus or something?), I understand they don't want a buggy mess like almost all the other major DLCs caused, but why couldn't they better utilize their actual beta testers (as I've heard the current devs really haven't been utilizing their beta testers)?

Well, we'll see how this goes. RPG-focused stuff is always nice, I've always preferred that anyways.

You can opt-in to betas and such (like old versions) in the preferences menu thing.

 

[cybrxkhan]

You can opt-in to betas and such (like old versions) in the preferences menu thing.

I'm aware of that, but that's not what I was talking about, my main concern is that they haven't been using their actual beta testers that well (so I've been told, and, judging by how buggy the recent major DLCs were, I can see how that could be the case), and now they're switching to another method of beta testing - I have my doubts as to whether this new method will really be that effective. All that said, I suppose this seems like a smaller sort of DLC that'd be better for testing whether this system would work than a big honking DLC.

 

[gay_Aleks]

In any Paradox patch/DLC/expansion, wait at least 6 months before actually trying it if you want a bugfree experience.

 

[cybrxkhan]

In any Paradox patch/DLC/expansion, wait at least 6 months before actually trying it if you want a bugfree experience.

Unfortunately so. I don't think that will change anytime soon, even with the increasing popularity and mainstream knowledge of PI.


All that said, I'm now currently more interested in how they're arguing about Gamersgate and political and correctness in the WoL announcement thread just because of PI's word choice of "seduce" in the announcement; some are accused of being PC feminist liberals, and those people are accusing the other side of being red pill rapists. How cute, PI fanbois, you never cease to amaze me with how easily you start flame wars over nothing.

Y'know what, I don't even care about whether WoL is gonna be good or not, I'm just secretly hoping the flame wars won't die down and it'll spawn even more PI fanboi flamewars that will consume the entire world in a hellish apocalypse of stupid internet arguments. I'm a terrible person, I know.

 

[scheva007]

This is really, really nice. I always saw and played CK2 as more an RPG than a strategy game so more of this is wonderful.

Since CK2 has always been more about stry/character than a strategy game, it's quite weird t took so long for them to put it in. You could even argue it should be in from the beginning.

And yeah, its really short after the previous dlc, i see a bad pattern emerging. I once said its gonna break the 200€ dlc barier as a joke, thats close to reality now