CTIV-7: King George the First
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ChrTh
Happy Yule!
bobrath said:
I'll post it after I complete the first 20.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Musical Notes in Italics
Turn 0 -- 4000 BC
Put the soundtrack on shuffle starting with Baba Yetu.
I agree that the starting position is primo (although there's a slight temptation to move one tile east).
We have Agriculture (Corn) and Fishing (Fish) to start so that covers 2 of our 3 immediate resources.
Washington is built, the villagers provide us with a map:
Yep, we're in the north all right.
Heh, Washington's Music plays next on shuffle.
I decide to research Hunting first. I want us to get Archery pretty quickly (don't trust the AI).
Building a Warrior.
I check the random factors: low sea level, which means more land. Tropical climate, so our starting position is pretty good as we should not have to worry about tundra or jungle all that much (for now).
Turn 1 -- 3960 BC
Turn 2 -- 3920 BC
Sugar to our South.
Turn 3 -- 3880 BC
Cows as well.
Did I say "should not have to worry about jungle"? I lied. The forest appears to extend only 6 tiles south from the coast.
Turn 4 -- 3840 BC
Ok, after the unused opening comes Alex's theme. Foreshadowing?
Turn 5 -- 3800 BC
Washington's borders expand, get a better view of desert to our southwest.
Turn 6 -- 3760 BC
Hunting comes in. Start Archery.
Turn 7 -- 3720 BC
Stone to our southeast, and a lake it appears.
Turn 8 -- 3680 BC
Warrior is built (fortifies). Start Workboat.
Buddhism is FIDL.
Isabella's theme.
Turn 9 -- 3640 BC
That's no lake, that's the ocean! We're in the north, but it looks like we're in the Northeast corner ... we may have plenty of room to expand since we've yet to encounter anyone.
Turn 11 -- 3560 BC
Original theme music
Turn 13 -- 3480 BC
Archery comes in, start Mining
Warrior pops a Hut, the Villagers are hostile!
Turn 14 -- 3440 BC
Our warrior dies
Turn 19 -- 3240 BC
Mining comes in, start Bronze Working
Wow, so, um, I didn't meet anyone
... however, since I explored E-SE while everyone is W-SW of us, that's not entirely without explanation ... still, though -- maybe we won't be crowded.
Huyana's theme
The world that we know:
The save:
View attachment 118198
The 4000BC save:
View attachment 118199
Roster
ChrTh -- Just finished
Bede -- UP (20 turns)
Methos -- On deck (take 10 turns)
Scowler
Maquis
Conroe
Turn 0 -- 4000 BC
Put the soundtrack on shuffle starting with Baba Yetu.
I agree that the starting position is primo (although there's a slight temptation to move one tile east).
We have Agriculture (Corn) and Fishing (Fish) to start so that covers 2 of our 3 immediate resources.
Washington is built, the villagers provide us with a map:
Yep, we're in the north all right.
Heh, Washington's Music plays next on shuffle.
I decide to research Hunting first. I want us to get Archery pretty quickly (don't trust the AI).
Building a Warrior.
I check the random factors: low sea level, which means more land. Tropical climate, so our starting position is pretty good as we should not have to worry about tundra or jungle all that much (for now).
Turn 1 -- 3960 BC
Turn 2 -- 3920 BC
Sugar to our South.
Turn 3 -- 3880 BC
Cows as well.
Did I say "should not have to worry about jungle"? I lied. The forest appears to extend only 6 tiles south from the coast.
Turn 4 -- 3840 BC
Ok, after the unused opening comes Alex's theme. Foreshadowing?
Turn 5 -- 3800 BC
Washington's borders expand, get a better view of desert to our southwest.
Turn 6 -- 3760 BC
Hunting comes in. Start Archery.
Turn 7 -- 3720 BC
Stone to our southeast, and a lake it appears.
Turn 8 -- 3680 BC
Warrior is built (fortifies). Start Workboat.
Buddhism is FIDL.
Isabella's theme.
Turn 9 -- 3640 BC
That's no lake, that's the ocean! We're in the north, but it looks like we're in the Northeast corner ... we may have plenty of room to expand since we've yet to encounter anyone.
Turn 11 -- 3560 BC
Original theme music
Turn 13 -- 3480 BC
Archery comes in, start Mining
Warrior pops a Hut, the Villagers are hostile!
Turn 14 -- 3440 BC
Our warrior dies
Turn 19 -- 3240 BC
Mining comes in, start Bronze Working
Wow, so, um, I didn't meet anyone
... however, since I explored E-SE while everyone is W-SW of us, that's not entirely without explanation ... still, though -- maybe we won't be crowded.Huyana's theme
The world that we know:
The save:
View attachment 118198
The 4000BC save:
View attachment 118199
Roster
ChrTh -- Just finished
Bede -- UP (20 turns)
Methos -- On deck (take 10 turns)
Scowler
Maquis
Conroe
Found it and much else besides, not all of it good.....Bede said:
Turn 20 (3200 BC)
Move the citizen down to the vineyard by the river. Gets us Bronze in 9 and the workboat in 3
Corn, sheep, fish and wine. Fried fish with cornbread and mutton.
Turn 21 (3160 BC)
Turn 22 (3120 BC)
Washington finishes: Work Boat
Turn 23 (3080 BC)
Washington begins: Scout
Fishing boat sets sail and start training a scout to open the fog
Turn 24 (3040 BC)
Turn 25 (3000 BC)
more
Turn 26 (2960 BC)
Turn 27 (2920 BC)
Tech learned: Bronze Working No copper in sight Did not implement Slavery
Turn 28 (2880 BC)
Research begun: Animal Husbandry
Washington finishes: Scout
Turn 29 (2840 BC)
Washington begins: Worker
Scout heads south and meets a representative of the Mongolian Empire
Turn 30 (2800 BC)
A parley with the Khan
Turn 31 (2760 BC)
Gold in them thar hills
Hinduism founded in a distant land
Turn 32 (2720 BC)
Ruh-roh
Montezuma and a barbarian
Scout runs the other way
Turn 33 (2680 BC)
Lions and spicy bananas by the bay
Turn 34 (2640 BC)
Lion runs away
Turn 35 (2600 BC)
Lion comes back. So long Scout it was good to know ye!
On a jungle hill yet!Scout loses to: Barbarian Lion (0.50/2)
Tech learned: Animal Husbandry to send the worker sheepherding and find the horses
Turn 36 (2560 BC)
Research begun: The Wheel as we are going to need roads and cottages to go with the loaves and fishes and lamb cutlets
Washington finishes: Worker
Turn 37 (2520 BC)
Washington begins: Archer need a little more of a defense with Kublai and Montezuma as close neighbors. Not to mention barbarians
Turn 38 (2480 BC)
Turn 39 (2440 BC)
Tech learned: The Wheel
Turn 40 (2400 BC)
Research begun: Pottery
Settler after the archer maybe, and chop the riverside forest to help him along, then plant a cottage. Send the settler southeast I think. There is sugar and gold down that away and it starts the proces of sealing off our corner.
Some nice ground to the south to the bay and horses on the beach to the southwest. Both Khan and Monte came from the south and went back to the SW.
This promises to be one heck of a diplomatic game. With a feather headed Psycho-bunny and the goateed Keshik Rider in the neighborhood.
Roster
Methos -- up (take 10 turns)
Scowler
Maquis
Conroe
ChrTh
Bede -- Fish, lamb found gold and friends(?)
Turn 40 (2400 BC)
Washington grows: 4
Turn 41 (2360 BC)
Methos: I send the worker to the river-side forest to begin the chop. It'll finish a couple turns into the settler.
Turn 43 (2280 BC)
Washington finishes: Archer
Turn 44 (2240 BC)
Methos: DC is one turn short of growth so I put off the settler for a turn.
Washington begins: Scout
Tech learned: Pottery
Washington grows: 5
Turn 45 (2200 BC)
Research begun: Writing
Washington begins: Settler
Turn 46 (2160 BC)
Methos: Worker clears the forest and starts a cottage.
Judaism founded in a distant land
Turn 49 (2040 BC)
Washington's borders expand
Turn 50 (2000 BC)
Methos: After the cottage the worker moved to thewheat corn. He hasn't started any work yet.
Methos: The settler will be finished in two turns.
I’m thinking we might want to finish the scout (it’ll be done in two) after the settler. We need to see if we can meet everyone else.
Roster:
ChrTh
Bede
Methos- Just Played
Scowler- Up
Maquis- On Deck
Conroe
Washington grows: 4
Turn 41 (2360 BC)
Methos: I send the worker to the river-side forest to begin the chop. It'll finish a couple turns into the settler.
Turn 43 (2280 BC)
Washington finishes: Archer
Turn 44 (2240 BC)
Methos: DC is one turn short of growth so I put off the settler for a turn.
Washington begins: Scout
Tech learned: Pottery
Washington grows: 5
Turn 45 (2200 BC)
Research begun: Writing
Washington begins: Settler
Turn 46 (2160 BC)
Methos: Worker clears the forest and starts a cottage.
Judaism founded in a distant land
Turn 49 (2040 BC)
Washington's borders expand
Turn 50 (2000 BC)
Methos: After the cottage the worker moved to the
Methos: The settler will be finished in two turns.
I’m thinking we might want to finish the scout (it’ll be done in two) after the settler. We need to see if we can meet everyone else.
Roster:
ChrTh
Bede
Methos- Just Played
Scowler- Up
Maquis- On Deck
Conroe
Afger looking at the pictures I don't think farming the corn will help with anything but health issues. Better perhaps to cottage the river bank northeast of Washington, move the citizen wokring in the vineyard up to the new riverbank cottage, then cut some more trees on the hill to push out another settler, and then dig a mine.
Does anybody have a strong preference for the next town site?
I would favor the red dot, or somewhere in that neighborhood. The placement is awkward relative to the coast but I think it will only have one coastal plot in its radius which can balance the oasis food output. Mu other reason for that spot is the lower probability of having to deal with barbarians in that direction as both Monte and Kubbe came from that direction. To the east is going to be barbarian heaven as there has been no or very little movement in or from that direction.
Does anybody have a strong preference for the next town site?
I would favor the red dot, or somewhere in that neighborhood. The placement is awkward relative to the coast but I think it will only have one coastal plot in its radius which can balance the oasis food output. Mu other reason for that spot is the lower probability of having to deal with barbarians in that direction as both Monte and Kubbe came from that direction. To the east is going to be barbarian heaven as there has been no or very little movement in or from that direction.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Good turns, guys. Monty + Khan isn't the best, but it could've been worse: could've been Genghis instead of his grandson, and it could've been Toku. If we're going to favor one over the other, definitely favor the dude that inspired Coleridge.
Turn 0 (2000 BC)
- Citizen is transferred from hill to wine to bring Writing down to 2 turns.
- Archer is sent out ahead to scout red dot and check possible alternatives. Seems more prudent to use the archer rather than the warrior just in case something nasty is lurking in the undergrowth.
Turn 1 (1960 BC)
- Well, at least we're only "pathetic" and not "forgotten", but I don't like the fact that our nearest neighbours are currently topping the charts.
- Bede is right about leaving the corn for the time being; Washington is already at the happiness limit. However, I'm not going to build another cottage yet either. Instead, the worker marches straight up the grassland hill ready to chop for another settler.
Turn 2 (1920 BC)
- Writing is finished, so it's time to choose the next tech. That stone resource is a bit too far away to be usable at the moment, and we are too busy gearing up for expansion to spend time building lighthouses (though the Great Lighthouse would certainly be welcome...). I also don't see any point in trying for an early religion with a bright-eyed befeathered fanatic waiting to hammer home the merits of Buddhism. Since we have apparently been landed with the neighbours from hell, and we have no copper, I'd feel more comfortable if we could find an iron resource nearby.
- Next step: we sign OB with both Montezuma and Khan. There's no point in keeping borders closed at this stage as there is no opportunity to block them off. They are pleased with each other, so no diplomatic risk there, and if anyone more congenial turns up later we can always cancel after 10 turns. More importantly, it might - just might - help keep them off our backs for a while.
- Settler is finished so he gets kicked out after the archer, heading for red dot.
- Scout is ready in 2 turns, and the worker starts chopping (3 turns).
Turn 3 (1880 BC)
Washington finishes: Scout
Turn 4 (1840 BC)
- New York is founded with a nasty right on the doorstep!
Good to see some pigs in the vicinity as well.
- Scout sets out to explore and another settler is started
New York begins: Archer
Archer defeats (2.28/3): Barbarian Warrior
Turn 5 (1800 BC)
Turn 6 (1760 BC)
Well, he, Montezuma, and Khan are all good buddies so I open borders with Mao as well.
Worker starts building a road to connect New York and the horses.
Turn 7 (1720 BC)
Turn 8 (1680 BC)
Turn 9 (1640 BC)
Turn 10 (1600 BC)
- Iron Working due in 2 turns. Washington is currently set up so that the settler is finished the turn after; if there is any iron nearby it can be grabbed right away. Failing that, yellow dot still seems like the best option. Obviously we will want an archer to chaperone as soon as possible.
- Scout has been dodging barbs (there seem to be quite a few about) so has not got far. No sign of any other civs yet. Montezuma, Khan, and Mao are still pleased with each other but only cautious with us. Needless to say, we are somewhat lacking in oomph:
The save
- Citizen is transferred from hill to wine to bring Writing down to 2 turns.
- Archer is sent out ahead to scout red dot and check possible alternatives. Seems more prudent to use the archer rather than the warrior just in case something nasty is lurking in the undergrowth.
Turn 1 (1960 BC)
- Well, at least we're only "pathetic" and not "forgotten", but I don't like the fact that our nearest neighbours are currently topping the charts.
- Bede is right about leaving the corn for the time being; Washington is already at the happiness limit. However, I'm not going to build another cottage yet either. Instead, the worker marches straight up the grassland hill ready to chop for another settler.
Turn 2 (1920 BC)
- Writing is finished, so it's time to choose the next tech. That stone resource is a bit too far away to be usable at the moment, and we are too busy gearing up for expansion to spend time building lighthouses (though the Great Lighthouse would certainly be welcome...). I also don't see any point in trying for an early religion with a bright-eyed befeathered fanatic waiting to hammer home the merits of Buddhism. Since we have apparently been landed with the neighbours from hell, and we have no copper, I'd feel more comfortable if we could find an iron resource nearby.
- Next step: we sign OB with both Montezuma and Khan. There's no point in keeping borders closed at this stage as there is no opportunity to block them off. They are pleased with each other, so no diplomatic risk there, and if anyone more congenial turns up later we can always cancel after 10 turns. More importantly, it might - just might - help keep them off our backs for a while.
- Settler is finished so he gets kicked out after the archer, heading for red dot.
- Scout is ready in 2 turns, and the worker starts chopping (3 turns).
Turn 3 (1880 BC)
Washington finishes: Scout
Turn 4 (1840 BC)
- New York is founded with a nasty right on the doorstep!
Good to see some pigs in the vicinity as well.
- Scout sets out to explore and another settler is started
New York begins: Archer
Archer defeats (2.28/3): Barbarian Warrior
Turn 5 (1800 BC)
Turn 6 (1760 BC)
Well, he, Montezuma, and Khan are all good buddies so I open borders with Mao as well.
Worker starts building a road to connect New York and the horses.
Turn 7 (1720 BC)
Turn 8 (1680 BC)
Turn 9 (1640 BC)
Turn 10 (1600 BC)
- Iron Working due in 2 turns. Washington is currently set up so that the settler is finished the turn after; if there is any iron nearby it can be grabbed right away. Failing that, yellow dot still seems like the best option. Obviously we will want an archer to chaperone as soon as possible.
- Scout has been dodging barbs (there seem to be quite a few about) so has not got far. No sign of any other civs yet. Montezuma, Khan, and Mao are still pleased with each other but only cautious with us. Needless to say, we are somewhat lacking in oomph:
The save
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Roster:
ChrTh
Bede
Methos
Scowler > Just Played
Maquis > Up
Conroe > On Deck
ChrTh
Bede
Methos
Scowler > Just Played
Maquis > Up
Conroe > On Deck
Maquis
King
Got it, I'll be playing in the next couple of hours.
Maquis
King
Turns done. Not too much to report. I set research to Alphabet after IW came in. Barbs are starting to pop up more frequently.
IW came in, and we find one source of iron nearby:
That should solidify yellow dot. The next settler should be going there.
Also, I spot where some of our barb problems are coming from:
Oh, and just to make the diplomatic trifecta... I meet Isabella in the SE.
At this point, I just wonder how long it is until we meet Tokagowa?
Here's the save:
Spoiler :
IW came in, and we find one source of iron nearby:
That should solidify yellow dot. The next settler should be going there.
Also, I spot where some of our barb problems are coming from:
Oh, and just to make the diplomatic trifecta... I meet Isabella in the SE.
At this point, I just wonder how long it is until we meet Tokagowa?
Here's the save:
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Maquis said:
Are you planning on meeting the Barb threat with Letters?
Not. Funny.
Roster:
ChrTh > On Deck
Bede
Methos
Scowler
Maquis > Just Played
Conroe > Up
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
What's the settler in Washington waiting for, a couple troops?
A few comments:
- DC is current starving due to un angry citizen. Move a citizen to the sheep so we dont lose any population.
- We need to get one of NYs archers to the iron city just in case of barbs. One thing, should we worry too much about fog gazers since were playing a Pangaea? It seems like every continents SG Ive played weve always ended up alone on our landmass, so Im uncertain about barb activity on Pangaea.
- We have three wine resources inside our borders, with a fourth that will eventually fall into them. Once we get Alphabet I suggest trading our way as close to Monarchy as possible and researching it fairly early. Since were going the diplomatic route trading our wines off early would really help us relations wise.
- How soon should we go after that barb city? Im thinking not too long after we get the Iron connected.
- We have Open Borders with everyone except Izzy. Might as well sign them with her too.
- BTW, our scout is toast. There is a barb archer adjacent to both our scout and one of Izzys warriors. And since her warrior is a combat II hiding in the forest and were in the wide open, yeah, were toast. Looking at it more, we might not be. The archer is sitting on a goody hut and may, like in Meth01, sit there until attacked.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
It looks like Washington was starving because of the Barb Attack that just occurred (can't work tiles with enemy troops). Governor should auto-readjust next turn, but yeah, it can be changed now.
EDIT: In terms of the barb city, you know ... maybe we should leave it. Isabella and Kublai may settle in that direction, and it'll effectively slow them down in getting into our neck of the world. Now, if we decide to head out that way ourselves, well, yeah,
Also note that even though yellow dot breaks off our section from the rest of the world, the AI will still send settlers through our open borders. Perhaps we should cancel them until we're done settling? Or will that cause a diplo penalty?
EDIT: In terms of the barb city, you know ... maybe we should leave it. Isabella and Kublai may settle in that direction, and it'll effectively slow them down in getting into our neck of the world. Now, if we decide to head out that way ourselves, well, yeah,
Also note that even though yellow dot breaks off our section from the rest of the world, the AI will still send settlers through our open borders. Perhaps we should cancel them until we're done settling? Or will that cause a diplo penalty?
