Czechs to change their name?

[Domen]

Russia should be there as well, considering it's a Slavic country.

Great Putinia is not allowed in. It is Slavic, but Asian. We want only Slavic European countries to unite.

crap, how the hell did we get talking about Poland again.

This ALWAYS happens

It is your fault this time! Shame on you!

Let's talk about Great Putinia.

 

[Camikaze]

It is your fault this time!

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[Domen]

But if Czechs change their name to P-word, then I can talk about "Czechs"?

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[Lord Baal]

How history works?

Edit:I am currious if you can come up with why the Romans didnt endure as world power and how they could possibly avoid the downfall and desintegration....

Well, they lasted 1500 years before losing a single close-fought seige that their enemies only won because some idiot left a gate unlocked. This despite almost no Emperors actually anjoying positive public opinion. I'd say they did alright.

 

[Winner]

Your Pavlovian response isn't someone else's fault. Please remember that a thread being about one Eastern European country does not automatically mean it is about all Eastern European countries, and continuously derailing it thusly, contrary to the OP's clearly expressed wishes, can easily amount to jerkish behaviour.

CENTRAL European. The Czech Republic/Czechia is located in the very middle of the continent, so rather than asking about how to call it, you should perhaps learn to locate it properly.

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[Domen]

CENTRAL European. The Czech Republic/Czechia is located in the very middle of the continent, so rather than asking about how to call it, you should perhaps learn to locate it properly.

Huhuh! Someone here is very sensitive when it comes to geography!

Westernmost point of Czechia - 12°05'E
Easternmost point of Czechia - 18°51'E
Northernmost point of Czechia - 51°04'N
Southernmost point of Czechia - 48°33'N

So basically the Czech Republic is located in North-Eastern Earth.

Well, they lasted 1500 years before losing a single close-fought siege

Which siege do you mean? Rome? I think they actually lost many sieges before - for example this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Amida

 

[Winner]

Huhuh! Someone here is very sensitive when it comes to geography!

Just aware of the political geography of Europe and the way it is being misconstrued in casual language to marginalize whole countries.

 

[Lord Baal]

Huhuh! Someone here is very sensitive when it comes to geography!

Westernmost point of Czechia - 12°05'E
Easternmost point of Czechia - 18°51'E
Northernmost point of Czechia - 51°04'N
Southernmost point of Czechia - 48°33'N

So basically the Czech Republic is located in North-Eastern Earth.



Which siege do you mean? Rome? I think they actually lost many sieges before - for example this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Amida

Byzantium.

 

[Kyriakos]

Byzantium.

Ie the Central roman empire- in more ways than one.

 

[Domen]

Just aware of the political geography of Europe and the way it is being misconstrued in casual language to marginalize whole countries.

To marginalize? When someone says "you are from Eastern Europe" is this marginalization? How so?

 

[Lord Baal]

Ie the Central roman empire- in more ways than one.

Are you making a joke about Winner's problem with referring to Czechia as being Eastern European? If not, I don't know what you're getting at.

To marginalize? When someone says "you are from Eastern Europe" is this marginalization? How so?

Guilt by association.

 

[Winner]

To marginalize? When someone says "you are from Eastern Europe" is this marginalization? How so?

I won't go into it here. The term is loaded with all sorts of connotations relating to the Cold War and the near-racial stereotyping of the Eastern "Bloc" (the term itself suggest monolithic nature, devoid of diversity) countries. Now when the Cold War is over, the term needs to go, or be redefined in cultural terms to refer (without the political baggage) to Eastern Slavic countries (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine) which share the "Eastern Orthodox"-based culture.

Czech Rep. is a central European country - culturally, geographically and politically. Referring to it in other terms betrays ignorance at best, or political and/or racial prejudices of the speaker at worst.

 

[Domen]

I agree, Winner. So Poland is in Central Europe too?

Can Poland into Central Europe? Can Poland into space... in Central Europe?

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[Angst]

I won't go into it here. The term is loaded with all sorts of connotations relating to the Cold War and the near-racial stereotyping of the Eastern "Bloc" (the term itself suggest monolithic nature, devoid of diversity) countries. Now when the Cold War is over, the term needs to go, or be redefined in cultural terms to refer (without the political baggage) to Eastern Slavic countries (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine) which share the "Eastern Orthodox"-based culture.

Czech Rep. is a central European country - culturally, geographically and politically. Referring to it in other terms betrays ignorance at best, or political and/or racial prejudices of the speaker at worst.

What is this "cultural central europeanism" that Czechia is apparently touched by? It's absurd to imagine that there is something distinctly special in regards to central Europe. Very 19th century of you. I mean, unless "cultural central europeanism" is Germandom.

 

[Lone Wolf]

A very intellectual way of trolling these discussions would be quoting from Inventing Eastern Europe.

On-topic, it's Che(k)hia in Russian, which is probably how "Czechia" is actually supposed to be pronounced.

 

[Winner]

It's not directly related, but it's a nice expression of what many people think about the president: "A finger salute to the president".

Anyway, the way the opinion polls look like 3 days before the election, we may soon change the name to the Democratic People's Republic of Czechia

Spoiler :

Sir Humphrey: East Yemen, isn't that a democracy?
Sir Richard Wharton: Its full name is "The Peoples' Democratic Republic of East Yemen."
Sir Humphrey: Ah, I see, so it's a communist dictatorship.

What is this "cultural central europeanism" that Czechia is apparently touched by? It's absurd to imagine that there is something distinctly special in regards to central Europe. Very 19th century of you. I mean, unless "cultural central europeanism" is Germandom.

It concerns mostly the overt aspects of culture like architecture and cuisine, but also certain traits related to 'mentality'. Most of it stems from the long shared history of the countries that constitute central Europe.

A very intellectual way of trolling these discussions would be quoting from Inventing Eastern Europe.

On-topic, it's Che(k)hia in Russian, which is probably how "Czechia" is actually supposed to be pronounced.

Interesting. So you say something like "čechi(j)a"?

 

[Kyriakos]

Τσεχία*

*Czechia

 

[Lone Wolf]

Interesting. So you say something like "čechi(j)a"?

Yeah, do Czechs pronounce it differently?

 

[Winner]

Yeah, do Czechs pronounce it differently?

We say "Česko" (to Česko, neuter gender).

 

[strijder20]

It's already Tsjechië in Dutch (Pronounced as Czechiuh).