Dawn of Colonization

[Jehoshua]

This is the problem. If I were GM I would ignore this line of his orders entirely as it does not give enough information on his actual preferences. If he doesn't care what provinces he gets or not, what's an extra two minutes to pick some at random so the GM doesn't have to do it for him?

I suppose so, Im a patient person though so I suppose that may be part of why I don't see it as a problem.

 

[Red_Spy]

Spoiler :

He also plans to expand into England, Wales.

 

[BSmith1068]

I suppose so, Im a patient person though so I suppose that may be part of why I don't see it as a problem.

On the face of it it doesn’t seem like a big deal, but remember that Sone has a ton of other players in this game and making his life easier with the orders is better for everyone. The less time and thought needed to process orders by the GM is better for everyone.

It also removes the potential for a double standard in order processing (GM did X for player A but not for Player B) and reduces any backlash or questions when things don’t go well for players.

I’m speaking from experience here as the GM of Iron and Blood: Redux.

 

[filli_noctus]

To: Sweden
From: Prussia

We intend only to return the light of civilisation to the chaos that plagues our northern neighbours.

 

[Jehoshua]

On the face of it it doesn’t seem like a big deal, but....

Yeah, I guess your right on that, and I may be patient but I can see it becoming really problematic in the late game. Best to nip things like this in the bud.

 

[mayor]

Dual kingdom of Navarre and Aquitaine​

Capital: Pamploma (province with cross)
Government: Monarchy
Religion: Orthodox Catholic

Income: 23$

9$ + 90 pop - 9 armies
9$ - Army maintenance
5$ - Industry investments

Expand eastward, use 3 regiments per province

 

[christos200]

Actually, i dont know how much income i have and how many provinces i can claim with 5 divisions.

The stats only say Pop., Taxes and GNP.

It doesnt say how much $ i have.

 

[mayor]

it's the column called 'Revenue' next to the column 'Tax'

 

[christos200]

Ok. Thanks.

 

[BSmith1068]

Actually, i dont know how much income i have and how many provinces i can claim with 5 divisions.

The stats only say Pop., Taxes and GNP.

It doesnt say how much $ i have.

You have $23.

And no one really knows how many provinces you can claim with 5 armies. It sounds like you would have an 87% chance of successfully claiming 1 province with all 5 armies though, so that should be a start. It really comes down to how much risk you are willing to take.

 

[Tyo]

To: Sweden
From: Prussia

We intend only to return the light of civilisation to the chaos that plagues our northern neighbours.

And we intend to do so to our cultural brethren eventually. I propose that you worry about Germans and we will worry about Scandinavians.

 

[christos200]

Orders:

23 $:

Built 5 division.
Built 1 ship.
Built 1 fort.
Expand in 3 provinces bordering my own current provinces.
Invested the rest into Industrial Growth.
Tax Rate: 32%

To: Japan
From: Imperium of Mongolia

Faithless Japans desire to interact in matters outside of your isolated island is both strange and amusing to the Khan. Especially as your response is that you will "give" money to Tibet. Considering you have no mainland provinces to move the money this would be a large feat for such a small nation. Not to mention all you are saying you will do is waste your own money.

But as the diplomatic core has said, you have amused the Khan, if you can state ethically and diplomatically why Mongolia should NOT Excommunicate the Tibet Monks when they have behaved as two faced then we MAY reconsider.
Remember they have;
Stated Buddhists should should not be forced into drafts
Stated that Buddhists should never be aggressive or wage war
Forced their own none Buddhists into Drafts
Forced their Drafted Armies to Murder in their Buddhist name

Please deliver your answer soon. We will make public your response so both our nations can see your... "wisdom". We look forward to seeing you try to answer this.

Japan sees China as a Japanese area, so it is our Emperor's goal to keep China in Peace. By fighting over religious matters, you threaten to destroy the stability in China. So we call both you and Tibet on a confederence in Japan to solve the Buddhist problem. Since we have freedom of religion, we wont be biased. Let us try to united Buddhism and restore peace in Mainland Japan China.

Confucians and Oriental Catholics Demand Recognition. Tokyo, Eternal Empire of Japan. The two notable religions in Japan demand that Emperor Hirohata adopt one of them as the state religion of Japan. Shogun Tokugawa of the country, along with many others, argue that Japan should maintain its stance and not fall whim to two mere minor religions.

Japan shall not recognize any of those religions. And only that they demanded the Emperor to do their will is offensive. If the leaders of the two religions dont ask sorry and dont accept that Japan has freedom of religion, the Japanese Army shall move to exterminate both religions.

 

[filli_noctus]

We believe the Danes are more in need of our assistance at this juncture and that it is in the interests of both Prussia and Sweden that there be a civilised presence at the entrance to the strait.

 

[Ravus_Sol]

Japan sees China as a Japanese area, so it is our Emperor's goal to keep China in Peace. By fighting over religious matters, you threaten to destroy the stability in China. So we call both you and Tibet on a confederence in Japan to solve the Buddhist problem. Since we have freedom of religion, we wont be biased. Let us try to united Buddhism and restore peace in Mainland Japan China.

To: Japan
From: Mongolia

We asked for a ethical and diplomatic response. Your reply merely implies you are the eventual master of China and we, the lowly nations currently inhabiting it, are wrong to do anything that is counter to YOUR interests.

That is neither ethical nor diplomatic.

You have ignored all the philosophical questions we raised and demanded all the problems inherent in the Order/Shadow Buddhist divide cease, as though you merely stating so would perform said miracle. Thus we shall treat you as you have treated us. We ignore your call for a conference and demand that you stop threatening to destroy the followers of Confucius and Oriental Catholicism in your "Free" Religious Country.

Mongolia sees all the World as a Imperium area of interest and we cannot have you destabilising Japan. We call for a meeting between the Confucius and Oriental Catholicism Leaders to discuss what to do about Japan's implied barbarity and whether we should ALL Excommunicate him for his planned crimes against Religion.

 

[Double A]

That is neither ethical nor diplomatic.

It's almost like there's a pattern shared by all countries christos makes...

 

[JohannaK]

I gotta do this someday, and so while I write my RP, here it comes:
Convert to Orthodox Catholicism
Fort in my northernmost province
7$ and 70 pops to armies
Rest to industry
Map:

ORDERS UPDATED HERE

 

[JohannaK]

I have decided to act in reaction to this delicate situation.

Upon deciding that yelling insults would be denigrating and typically christosian behaviour, not to mention incredibly impolite and rude and, over all, ungentlemany, I have pondered my options and, as I see it, I must resign of this game if the threats and trolling are to become effective. But, seeing as I had much faith on this game, I will resign as Aragon only if a certain person does not change his orders for expansion.

I am more than willing to get to an understanding, and thus if he does move away from claiming Aragon, my own claims will greatly change as well. I just hope we hadn't had to get here... I know that this might be considered an overreaction, but one does not simply camp in the neighbour's backyard without asking or without a very good reason.

Needless to say, this is too interesting to really quit, so I'll join somewhere else less crowded and more peaceful, where I can quietly create my RP and develop my plans without anybody around to stop me. A pity, because I already knew how I was gonna RP and I was making some fine work...

I have also resolved to be absent from the chat to avoid the people that wait there, and their possible coercions to my person.

 

[Jehoshua]

stuff that Joans ic necessitates.

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To The Government of Catalonia
From The Patriarchate of Jerusalem

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If you are to adopt the Orthodox Catholic Faith as rumour has it you must depart from the false Cathar mentality in regards to war and peace and uphold the principles of just war theory. Your threats to Navarre over its claims to land currently occupied by barbarian tribes is unnacceptable and unjust and bespeak an incomplete or even ingenuine conversion to the truth. For should you initiate a war with a brother of our faith who has made no attempt to engage in aggression against you, you will risk the ire of Jerusalem and face either excommunication, or other measures against you.

As such the Patriarch requests that Catalonia and Navarre take all possible measures to find a peaceful resolution to their disagreement in order to preserve the peace. We have no desire to bring divine penalty upon the good nation of Catalonia nor to possibly invoke a wider conflict in Europe, but if such a thing is necessary the patriarchate will do it.

 

[christos200]

To: Japan
From: Mongolia

We asked for a ethical and diplomatic response. Your reply merely implies you are the eventual master of China and we, the lowly nations currently inhabiting it, are wrong to do anything that is counter to YOUR interests.

That is neither ethical nor diplomatic.

You have ignored all the philosophical questions we raised and demanded all the problems inherent in the Order/Shadow Buddhist divide cease, as though you merely stating so would perform said miracle. Thus we shall treat you as you have treated us. We ignore your call for a conference and demand that you stop threatening to destroy the followers of Confucius and Oriental Catholicism in your "Free" Religious Country.

Mongolia sees all the World as a Imperium area of interest and we cannot have you destabilising Japan. We call for a meeting between the Confucius and Oriental Catholicism Leaders to discuss what to do about Japan's implied barbarity and whether we should ALL Excommunicate him for his planned crimes against Religion.

For now we want peace in the Chinese province region. So we call you to accept a confederence. If you wont accept it, Japan will recognize Tibetan Buddhism as the true Buddhist religion, and it will send part of it's income each turn to Tibet.

Also we never threaten to exterminate any religion. We only told them that they have two options:

1) Accept that Japan has freedom of Religion.
2) Dont accept and ''leave'' Japan to go to the afterlife.

 

[Double A]

Consciously undermining your own argument is definitely a unique way of debating.