Dawn of Colonization

ooc: clearly the fee he agreed too was a 50/50 cut of the profits :p

and since your online and don't seem to be inclined to say it.

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IC:

Announcement from the Master of Commerce

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The Empire of Kolkata has agreed to our proposals. The Kingdom of Jerusalem looks forward to long years of mutually beneficial business with the Empire, and expresses the hope that this arrangement will aid in fostering closer relations between east and west in the future.
 
There is no evidence that the Danes require special assistance, and they have so far left the strait alone. In fact, it seems more likely that you wish to control Swedish markets. Your soon-to-be port in Hamburg makes your use for the strait rather limited...

Our objective as the civilized nation in Scandinavia is, after economic growth, is the unification and protection of the Swedish people. Your plan is detrimental to our objective and our right as Scandinavians to unify a Scandinavian nation.

It would be better for both our nations if you refrained from annexing Denmark. You may lead your people however you wish, but don't lead ours.

We have no interest in controlling Swedish markets and will fully support any westward expansion of Sweden to open up North Sea harbours. However it is our opinion that Prussia requires a strategic presence in or bordering the skagerrak and/or the kattegat to guard against naval attack on our capital by any potentially hostile western powers. To that extent we are willing to halt any movement into Denmark in exchange for Sweden recognising Prussian claims on the island of Zeeland.
 
We agree on your terms, and we also wish to further extend it to the zone marked in green in the following map:
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On top of that, we would also like to sign a pact or treaty establishing that territory's national sovereignty, and an agreement between our nations to keep it unless we both agree to withdraw it. This is merely a first draft:

1. The Dual Kingdom of Navarre and Aquitaine and the Principality of Catalonia recognise the territories commanded from Huesca, Zaragoza and Teruel as a political entity neutral between both realms.

2. The Dual Kingdom of Navarre and Aquitaine and the Principality of Catalonia will respect the sovereignty of said territories by not attacking or invading a single one of them.

3. The Dual Kingdom of Navarre and Aquitaine and the Principality of Catalonia agree to preserve the sovereignty and independency of said region by all means available.

4. The Dual Kingdom of Navarre and Aquitaine and the Principality of Catalonia can only revoke this treaty by mutual agreement.

We accept

OOC:
We are sorry that our messenger did not reach you. A message was sent to you to explain you our reasons and to contact you for further negotiation.Luckily, it seems that we have been able to reach that common ground we were looking for without him. Although, that's a man lost for Catalonia, and as such we will mourn him tomorrow.

strictly OOC, really or are you just RPing this. Because if so... how did I miss it :s
 
To: Sweden/Prussia
The Theocratic Republic of the Crimea has a suggestion for the Danish Crisis: Why doesn't Prussia expand its form of "civilization" to Schleswig-Holstein, and then halt?

To: Mongolia
The Crimea would like to express its admiration for the Mongolians and their religion; Monolith guide warriors of all sorts (even if you are Buddhist!)


To: Jerusalem
The Crimea would be willing to trade Ukrainian horses for salt, extracted from the Dead Sea - even if it is heathen salt :p
 
Updated orders

All my orders are in one post, so that Sone doesn't have to keep track of all my changes, this is for the sanity of the GM ;)

ooc: RPing it, I actually wanted to tell you, but somehow I forgot :p
 
Uhh... Isn't Zeeland in the Netherlands?

Anyway, how about this. You can go as far as the two provinces that housed the small german state known as Holstein. Basically, I want this.
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To: Crimea
From: The Kingdom of Jerusalem
(ooc: which I keep having to stop myself typing as the papal states :p)

The Kingdom will accept you offer, if Crimea can guarantee that the stock it sends is good and thus relevant to the improvement of our pre-existing horse lineages. We also make it clear this arrangement will regularly be reviewed for profitability.

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Resource exchange agreement reached with Crimea
 
Crimean horses are direct descendants from their brethren in Mongolia! Implying they would be lesser than any non-Mongolian horse is a true insult.
 
Even amongst the descendants of the mongol horses are those of greater stock and those of lesser. We would have your guarantee that you would send horses of the highest mongol stock rather than the lesser, especially considering our indigenous arabian stock is not too shabby in its own right.
 
Crimean breeders will slaughter any horse that performs sub par; you needn't worry about quality here, my heathen, non rock-worshiping friend.
 
Uhh... Isn't Zeeland in the Netherlands?

Anyway, how about this. You can go as far as the two provinces that housed the small german state known as Holstein. Basically, I want this.
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ooc: My bad, Zealand-with-an-a, the large island in the strait.

IC: The territories you desire will prevent us from adequately securing our shores on the baltic. However the Kingdom of Prussia is not unreasonable and we present the following compromise.

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Soldiers are created with pop I believe, not cash. The cash serves to maintain the soldiers.

So say you wanted 5 soldier divisions. You utilise 50 pop and then you must pay $5 per turn to maintain them. 5 divisions would be reasonable for you considering your expansion options are limited unless you want to get some ships and start colonising.

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Oh, and I've edited my orders slightly

Maintenance must be paid the turn of creation as well.

OOC; My state religion is ORTHODOX CATHOLIC not Russian orthodox Pleasse change it A.S.A.P.

Fixed in my stats. Did not see the change in your sign-up post earlier.


Err, alright. :confused:

Consciously undermining your own argument is definitely a unique way of debating.

ooc: AA you are being annoying and a pain in the ass.

Cut it out.

Me too. Son, can i have Vader back?

No.
 
Sultanate of Malacca:
Rough orders, with RP to come later.

Extend our trade to all of our Islamic brothers, and invest the entire economy into industry.

Additionally, extend trade to all other nations, with the condition that religious conversion of our resident populous is strictly prohibited.
 
ooc: My bad, Zealand-with-an-a, the large island in the strait.

IC: The territories you desire will prevent us from adequately securing our shores on the baltic. However the Kingdom of Prussia is not unreasonable and we present the following compromise.

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Well if you're worried about it that much, a better base of operations would be the island right under Sweden[East of Denmark]. You can have that if you want.
 
Maintenance must be paid the turn of creation as well..

I put army maintanence as part of the costings under expenses ;).

oh and no need to go informing the ignorant :p
 
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