Denmark Civilization and Scenario Pack and Explorers Map Pack due for may 3rd

[Lyoncet]

And my hopes for seeing Sweden and a Hans Rosling UU begin to fade...

I think it's cool to see another (the fifth I think, if you count Songhai?) civ that gets benefit from watery maps, but once again, in a very different way than the others. Whereas the others go about it by getting more oomph from their navies or earlier exploration, Denmark's water advantage comes from more troop mobility on the water. I think that could actually end up being a huge benefit, depending on how their UA works. For example, can you move an embarked horseman four of five tiles, then disembark, then move it three more tiles on land? Because that would be incredible.

I think this could be really interesting and fun. In fact, I was just a few hours ago listening to a historian talk about how British naval superiority allowed them to ferry their troops up and down the coast to catch the colonial armies off guard, which made me start thinking "man, I wish that were more viable of a strategy in CiV!" Lo and behold!

 

[Louis XXIV]

So if I am reading this right, you could one day have a Riflemen/Infantry/Mech with +1 movement, Amphibious, a combat bonus/movement bonus on snow, hill and tundra, who gets free pillage and can attack from the ocean or go from ocean to land without using up an entire turn.

I think you're right for the most part, but one thing. I read the extra move to mean the unit has 3 movement points, so it wouldn't upgrade. But everything else would.

 

[Save_Ferris]

Does this mean the removal of Copenhagen? Not sure if that was around 1000 years ago though...

 

[Louis XXIV]

Gained city status in the 13th century. However, they typically use the modern capitol if it's a still-existing state.

 

[Camikaze]

RobinHat will be happy that it's the Danes rather than the Vikings!

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

Love the leaderhead, love the beserker, love the UA...DO NOT love the Ski Infantry in the slightest. Surely they could of thought of a UB instead.

 

[Pouakai]

The Uniform of the Ski infantry is nice though...

 

[Save_Ferris]

Love the leaderhead, love the beserker, love the UA...DO NOT love the Ski Infantry in the slightest. Surely they could of thought of a UB instead.

I could see a replacement to the forge/workshop for them.

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

The Uniform of the Ski infantry is nice though...

That's true...I'm more concerned about those two silly skis beneath his feet. Would be nice if those only appeared graphically on snow tiles.

 

[Pouakai]

You can ski on sand, and water, and grassy hills. Have a great general in front, then it will look like they're being towed by his jeep, and it will be better.

 

[danieladler]

Outrageous! Denmark, and not Sweden?? Besides the swedish viking were much more civilized. While the danes raped and plundered along the west european coast, the swedish vikings traded slaves, furs etc in the east and founded kingdoms (Novgorod) in what would later be Russia. Actually the word russia (rossija) comes from a district in Sweden called Roslagen. The swedish vikings trade in the east took them down to Bysans where they were even hired as the emperors private guard, because of their manliness! So Sweden, and the swedish vikings, pwns Denmark. Denmark....pfft....

 

[Save_Ferris]

You can ski on sand, and water, and grassy hills. Have a great general in front, then it will look like they're being towed by his jeep, and it will be better.

Or a battleship- extreme waterskiing!

 

[Civsassin]

Agree. But it's likely enough the patch will be out before this DLC. My guess is that's why the broke the patch into two parts, so these fixes would be available for the Danish scenario/civ.

Considering the patch details and the DLC, I would expect them both to be available on the 3rd, with the patch possibly coming out Monday.

 

[Omega124]

DENMARK!?

Wow, I actually want to really buy this one!

 

[KrikkitTwo]

I'm really liking their UA and UUs. Great synergy between it all. Longswords who have free amphibious and embarkation bonuses. No movement penalty from pillaging+ an extra movement point means you can pillage 2 tiles then attack a city all in the same turn with your Berserkers. On the surface you'd think "well this is a pure war civ, no economic bonuses" but that free pillaging can potentially be very sick. Get 3-4 Berserkers and go pillaging, collect a few hundred gold. Try to take the city, or make peace. Watch the AIs cities be crippled.

Then as if that wasn't good enough, you get to upgrade them and get a combat bonus on Snow, Tundra and Hills.

So if I am reading this right, you could one day have a Riflemen/Infantry/Mech with +1 movement, Amphibious, a combat bonus/movement bonus on snow, hill and tundra, who gets free pillage and can attack from the ocean or go from ocean to land without using up an entire turn.

You'll be able to weave in and out of sticky situations using the embark movement bonus, and hide behind rivers and on hills for some very strong units.

Is the +1 move a promotion?

 

[Morningcalm]

What I wonder, also, is whether Vikings that have embarked will look like longboats? It's always been weird how the longboat wasn't a UU for the Vikings in Civ IV given how it appeared in Ragnar's leader screen. XD

Also, what will they have for Normandy's leader screen? I sincerely hope it won't be Napoleon. Having Anglo-Saxon England represented by...Elizabeth would also be a bad choice. And if they were both just Viking leader reps....urgh. -_-

 

[_hero_]

Is the +1 move a promotion?

Not sure. Doesn't really matter much since the Ski Infantry gets a movement bonus on snow and hills and Mechs have 4 moves anyways. Only period of regular 2 tile movement will be when Ski Infantry upgrade to Infantry if that extra movement isn't an upgrade.

 

[Louis XXIV]

What I wonder, also, is whether Vikings that have embarked will look like longboats? It's always been weird how the longboat wasn't a UU for the Vikings in Civ IV given how it appeared in Ragnar's leader screen. XD

Also, what will they have for Normandy's leader screen? I sincerely hope it won't be Napoleon. Having Anglo-Saxon England represented by...Elizabeth would also be a bad choice. And if they were both just Viking leader reps....urgh. -_-

The Saxon King will be the odd one. Napoleon would definitely be the best choice for William.

 

[Camikaze]

Given the patch allows for 2D leaderheads, they might just be pictures rather than 3D leaderheads of existing leaders.

 

[The Kingmaker]

The Saxon King will be the odd one. Napoleon would definitely be the best choice for William.

Why? Napoleon's about as closely related to William as Elizabeth is to Harold. Actually scratch that--Elizabeth was a blood descendant of both Harold and William.