DMI VII - Team BtS

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@Refar

Your glasses must be fine ;)
I haven't checked the save :blush:
 
Keep in mind that I set up the cities for an SE, so even at 0% we were less than 20 turns to CS. If you're going cottage outside the capital, then look at St. Pete's which isn't working its cottages currently (because it's working the specialists.)

Because we're Philosophical, if we keep hiring the scientists, we will be swimming in GSs.

Academy in the capital with Bureau not far off isn't a bad idea, Philosophy and Pacifism, post Hatty, might not be a bad idea.
 
Yea SE is fine researchwise, but we still will have to pay for troop outside boarders when we go after Hatty.
 
Preturn - I have a bit of a weird feeling... It says CS ETA 38 turns. Bindamels Screenshot shows ETA 32. In his post he mentioned CS in less than 20 turns... Since i also had some weirdness about the slider as well i am not sure if something is messed up... I checked and doublechecked my game beeing unmodded, my custom assets beeing completely empty - even deleted Blue Marble... I re-downloaded Bindamels save just to be sure, and will play from it...

- Slider is at 0% with +3 gpt
- CS due in ~38 turns

Also just now i opened up imageshack to upload my screenshots and noticed that i did not do any. :mischief:

Turn 150 - 165 / 800AD to 1010AD

Trun 150 - I revolt to HR right away. Our happy cap makes me :cringe: and CS is to far away to wait. I do not take Caste System. There is much that has to be whipped and we donot have the pop for "unlimited" scientists. Perhaps we can revolt to Castle System/Buerocracy at the same time.
- I am going to settle the GS. Right now our best city is turning in 7 Beakers, so Akademies can wait. Bulbing Philosophy would delay CS 3 more turns (for Meditation). I choose Moskow, as it will probably get a Akademy as well later on. We have 30 :science:/turn right now so settling him will give us a 20% increase.
- As no hammers are invested in Builds in Moskow and Novgorod i change Moskow from Axe to Market for economy and Novgorod from Colosseum to Axe as in upcomming HR the Axe is a cheaper (and more versatile) source for happiness.

Turn 151 - The Venerable Bede puts us dead last in "Cultured Civilizations"
- Beeing in HR with a bit better happy cap i send the scientists in the fields for a turn or two to grow the cities.

Turn 152 - Shwedagon Paya built IAFAL
- Alexandria done Colosseum -> Barracks.
- Also a couple of scientists can return to the labs, fit and refreshed after one turn of work in the fresh air.

Turn 153 - St.Peters doen Sword -> Sword.
- Chop one of the pre-chopped forests near Moskow. The riverside grassland is going to be a cottage.

Turn 154 - I Trade CoL to Hatty for Sailing. Meditation, Archery and 50 gold. She is the only one without CoL, so she will probaly tech it at discount price really soon anyway. And Sailing allows our Cities to have foreighn trade, so i can put the slider up to 30%
- Also Memphis is going to get a Lighthouse, as the Clams is the Only +:food: tile we have there.
- Right after the trade i close Boarders with Hatty. She was Moving about 6 units trough our lands - presumably after those Barb cities. We dont want her to sniff around and take cities in out backyard.

Turn 155 - The Colossus is Built IAFAL
- Lighthouse in Memphis whipped.
- St.Peters, Alexandria and Novgorod are back to 2 scientists each.

Turn 156 - Izzy comes asking for Open Boarders. We have no idea where her boarders are, but we accept.
- The Partenon is built IAFAL.
- Alexandria done Barracks starts a Catapult.
- Memphis done Lighthouse and back on the queued Colosseum.
- I waited for Hatty to suicide the 2 Units she slipped through before i closed the boarders, she only looses 1 but softens the Barb City.
- The city is taken without loses on our side, yields only 22 gold and is burned.

Turn 157 - Kublai DoW's on Wash... One of them is going to ask us to join soon :(
- Hatty comes asking to trade Currency for Horseback Ridding. Its a economy tech, and her offer sounds a bit cheap, so we refuse.

Turn 158 - Novgorod done Axe starts Catapult.
- St.Peter done Sword, starts Catapult.

Turn 159 - Hatty wants us to stop trading with Mongolia (do we trade ?!). I send her away... Another -1 in diplo does not matter much with Egypt. Most of our trade Routes income comes from Mongolian cities.
- St.Peter, Alexandria and Novgorod Whip Catapults, Moskow whips Market.
- Amrican troops close on another barb city. I worry he might take it, so i attack first.
- Catapult surwives at 55% odds, the rest is a walk in the park and Navajo is burned for 99 gold. The Spot was not terrible, but Jungle infested, so it would take time untill the city can be made productive.

Turn 160 - Moskow done Market. Bilds Axe for Garrison/Happy.
- St.Peters done Catapult starts Sword.
- Alexandria Catapult -> Swordsman

Turn 161 - The Great Library is built IAFAL

Turn 162 - Kublai comes asking us to join in his war. I knew this is going to happen :( I Refuse. Another -2 towards Kublai... But we dont even know where he is, while Wash is close and looks dangerous.

Turn 163 - Mausoleum isbuilt IAFAL
- Whip the Colosseum in Memphis. The city is in trouble, pressure from Egypt, "We yearn to join Motherland"-:mad:

Turn 164 - Finished Colosseum in Memphis, start Spear.
- Hinduism spread to us (Memphis). I do not convert, thou it might be a option - Wash is Hindu, and he's the closest thig we have to a friend at +1 stance.

Turn 165 - Moskow done Axe, start Settler (Schould be good for a 2 pop whip in 3 turns - right on time as the Whip-:mad: will disappear in 4).
- St.Peters done sword and starts new one.
- Alexandria done Sword and start Catapult.
- Novgorod Sword -> Sword.
Feel free to override those last builds, as no hammers are invested yet.

The Save
 
Notes
- A Stack of 6 Swords, 6 Cats and some Axes/Spears is assembled in St.Peters. Some units need a turn of healing before they can move out.

- I did not used the GG, We might concider making him Warlord for a Super Medic out of the Medic Spear.

- There is a Tech trade with Hatty Avaiable: Currency+10 Gold <-> Calendar. Kublai and Wash already have Currencey, i am pretty sure Hatty is theching it right now. So i think we should take the deal - i would in a offline game, but as it came up on my last turn, i decided to just post it first.

- Wash will probably come to ask us to Join in against Kublai... I think we should agree, if he asks. Kublai is nowhere close (he probably must go through Washs Land to attack us) and i think we should keep Wash as pleased as possible, for the time beeing. A caveeat is, that most of our foreighn trade comes from Kublai, so we will loose some income...

- Alexandria, St.Peter, Novgorod and Moskos should loose Whip-:mad: in 4 turns, so in 3 turns might be a good time for 2-pop whips. I.E. in Moskow with the Settler, so the City can regrow and grow again.

- CS is due in 11 Turns. We have some gold in treasury, so perhaps we can speed it up with some deficit research.

- There are a Couple of Barbs around Novgorod. The city has enought troops to handle it i think.

- Hatty has a Scout, a Sword and a Archer somewhere in our Backyard. they sliped trough before i closed the boarders. So watc out when declaring to her.

- Our next GS should come out of Alexandria in 4 turns. I think we should settle him in Moskow for the upcomming Burocracy.
 
:D

We will still get it in total of ~26 turns (15 already spent + 11 reamining), faster if go into deficit, still not bad... I was just a bit irritated as the discussion here seemed to be "out of sync" with what i seen in the savegame :D
 
Started the turnset by massing troops in the hatty border .. Refar had done a nice job massing troops for me :D . The GS became a academy and the GG became a leadership CR III sword
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Soon enough...
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And CS is in... didn't revolted yet ( I don't like to revolt during wars....)
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Our first conquest of this war:
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And our troops near capitol with a list of the garrison ( this is from turn 9 of my turnset )
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Log
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Logging by BUG Mod 2.11 (BtS 3.13)
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Turn 165/460 (1050 AD) [03-Jan-2008 21:41:25]
Spearman 6 of St. Petersburg (Spearman) promoted: Medic I
Reminder: On Turn 175, Finish....

IBT:
While defending in Russian territory at Novgorod, Axeman defeats (5.00/5): Barbarian Axeman (Prob Victory: 97.2%)
Civics Change: Washington(America) from 'Despotism' to 'Hereditary Rule'
Civics Change: Washington(America) from 'Barbarism' to 'Bureaucracy'

Turn 166/460 (1060 AD) [03-Jan-2008 21:52:16]
Pachacuti (Swordsman) promoted: Lead by Warlord
Pachacuti (Swordsman) promoted: City Raider III
Pachacuti (Swordsman) promoted: Leadership
Alexandria grows: 6

IBT:
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Isabella(Spain), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 167/460 (1070 AD) [03-Jan-2008 21:55:11]

IBT:

While defending in Russian territory near Novgorod, Swordsman defeats (4.56/6): Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
Civics Change: Hatshepsut(Egypt) from 'Barbarism' to 'Bureaucracy'
Civics Change: Hatshepsut(Egypt) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'

Turn 168/460 (1080 AD) [03-Jan-2008 21:56:23]
Rosalind Franklin (Great Scientist) born in Alexandria

IBT:

Turn 169/460 (1090 AD) [03-Jan-2008 21:58:00]
While attacking in Russian territory at Novgorod, Axeman defeats (5.00/5): Barbarian Warrior (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
St. Petersburg begins: Axeman (5 turns)
DMI VII(Russia) declares war on Hatshepsut(Egypt)
Swordsman promoted: Combat I
Alexandria begins: Axeman (7 turns)
Whip anger has decreased in Moscow
Whip anger has decreased in St. Petersburg
The whip was applied in Alexandria
Whip anger has decreased in Novgorod
A Town was built near Moscow
Alexandria finishes: Catapult

IBT:
Washington(America) and Kublai Khan(Mongolia) have signed a peace treaty
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Washington(America), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 170/460 (1100 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:02:57]
A Farm was built near Moscow
While attacking in Russian territory near Moscow, Axeman defeats (4.00/5): Barbarian Warrior (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Moscow begins: Axeman (3 turns)
The whip was applied in Moscow
Whip anger has decreased in Alexandria
Tech learned: Civil Service
Moscow finishes: Axeman
St. Petersburg finishes: Swordsman
Alexandria grows: 5

IBT:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards DMI VII(Russia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 171/460 (1110 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:04:02]
Research begun: Metal Casting (13 Turns)
Axeman promoted: Combat I
Moscow finishes: Academy
Swordsman 4 of St. Petersburg (Swordsman) promoted: Combat I
The whip was applied in St. Petersburg
Moscow finishes: Settler
St. Petersburg grows: 4
St. Petersburg finishes: Axeman
Memphis finishes: Spearman
Novgorod grows: 5

IBT:
While defending in Russian territory near St. Petersburg, Swordsman 4 of St. Petersburg (Swordsman) defeats (5.10/6): Egyptian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Hatshepsut(Egypt) towards DMI VII(Russia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Isabella(Spain), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'

Turn 172/460 (1120 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:07:06]
Moscow begins: Archer (4 turns)
Memphis begins: Courthouse (120 turns)
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Swordsman loses to: Egyptian Axeman (1.80/5) (Prob Victory: 9.7%)
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Swordsman loses to: Egyptian Swordsman (6.00/6) (Prob Victory: 22.5%)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Axeman 10 of St. Petersburg (Axeman) loses to: Egyptian Archer (1.38/3) (Prob Victory: 21.4%)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Axeman 11 of St. Petersburg (Axeman) defeats (2.10/5): Egyptian Swordsman (Prob Victory: 68.1%)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Pachacuti (Swordsman) defeats (4.44/6): Egyptian War Chariot (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Swordsman defeats (1.92/6): Egyptian Archer (Prob Victory: 97.2%)
Swordsman promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Elephantine, Swordsman defeats (6.00/6): Egyptian Axeman (Prob Victory: 97.6%)
Confucianism has spread: Elephantine
Captured Elephantine (Hatshepsut)
Elephantine begins: Archer (26 turns)
Alexandria finishes: Axeman
Novgorod's borders expand

IBT:

Turn 173/460 (1130 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:15:14]
A Farm was built near Novgorod
Spearman promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Russian territory at St. Petersburg, Spearman defeats (1.60/4): Egyptian War Chariot (Prob Victory: 95.5%)
Moscow grows: 5
Memphis grows: 4

IBT:
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Isabella(Spain), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 174/460 (1140 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:25:22]
Pachacuti (Swordsman) promoted: Combat I
Axeman promoted: Shock
Spearman 7 of Memphis (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
St. Petersburg grows: 5
Novgorod finishes: Swordsman

IBT:
Attitude Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) towards Isabella(Spain), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Isabella(Spain) towards Kublai Khan(Mongolia), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Washington(America) towards Isabella(Spain), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Civics Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) from 'Barbarism' to 'Vassalage'
Civics Change: Kublai Khan(Mongolia) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'
Civics Change: Isabella(Spain) from 'Slavery' to 'Caste System'

Turn 175/460 (1150 AD) [03-Jan-2008 22:29:12]
Reminder: Finish....
Novgorod begins: Archer (4 turns)


Reminders

I already founded the x city and we have a archer en route. Our barbs are coming in sword version, so I have a shock axe in palce for interception. Hatty has a small force near S. Pete ,but it is stalled since the Dow ( so far Hatty only sent the sword that refar mentioned before and a wc to our lands... ). But i fear that our stack is not enough to finish hatty for good :(
The biggest problem we are facing is the finances ... 0% ,one city in wealth ,one in revolt and still in red ;) .... next whip round should be courthouses
Other concern is the fact that hatty can still whip some strong defenders... I'm planning to send that lonely spear to the iron to pillage it and to try to drag some units out of Thebes.
And , of course, what are we going to do with the runaway civ?

Trieste is up, pawelo is on deck. Both can take us out of this mess :lol:
 

Attachments

That's cool - you passed three checkpoints already and didn't post a report for any of 'em. Guess I have to give you some hundred points less on your finishing score as punishment if the reports don't come soon... :whipped: ;)
 
Immy ,i simply am without time :( Be free to :ar15: me, but leave the team points in peace ;) . But I bet that this game is clearly the more entertaining ( Oracle BIALD in turn 57, Versailes in AI capitol, axe rushes... )

P:s will post the reports tomorrow max ;)
 
Do you really mean Versaille.... i have never seen Divine Right going so quickly.
 
Yup, Versailles and Spiral Minaret ( check log ). And versailles is in a city founded in 4000 BC that has oracle as well ( F9 intel , #1 city )

It is not a so early date, if we consider that our mistery civ probably is Mansa ( my personal bet ) and that has the Oracle... He already had Theo so it probably got a GP and burned most of DR
 
I think it's impossible to build Verasailles in the Capital (Not sure as i never actually tried)...
Meaning: Our Runaway Civ probably took someone elses Capital.

We need to make a end to Hatty soon, build up some economy and go look who that Jerk is :trouble:
 
Immy ,i simply am without time :( Be free to :ar15: me, but leave the team points in peace ;) . But I bet that this game is clearly the more entertaining ( Oracle BIALD in turn 57, Versailes in AI capitol, axe rushes... )

P:s will post the reports tomorrow max ;)

I wrote a quick summary to 500 B.C. Would you like me to post it in the main thread, Cap'n?
 
^^Please, do so... today is my little sis birthday :pat: and things are quite out of hand regarding time to do anything... I was planning to write and post it tonight ( after LHC ), but if you already have the work done ,be my guest ;)
 
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