Do people actually go to "Palm readers" or fortunetellers/psychics?

[GenMarshall]

I don't even bother going to these places.

 

[.Shane.]

Hey Atlas, don't worry. I won't be like the others here and say that the psychic could not have possibly had powers. Funny how they accuse people like you of being unscientific, and then dismiss all claims of psychic powers without invesigation.

What's to investigate? We can't investigate his memory.

All I can say is that there are people who have investigated this stuff and have yet to find any proof that its real. Some are scientists, some are magicians (like the Amazing Randi, who I linked previously).

Its hokum.

BUT, they do need believers, otherwise, they couldn't make a living.

 

[CaptainF]

In answer to the OP:

YES! I mean, for chrissakes, I went to a convention for this crap (if you must know, it was because I thought there would be free food) and it was jam packed with people who 100% vested their faith in this. Kinda crappy really.

 

[warpus]

I think you are overanalyzing the situation. I knew all these college kids, they were not "assisting" or paid to do squat. There were no "hidden cameras" because I would have seen them being picked up after the show, such a thing never happened. I was there with my friends discussing the show for an hour after it happened, I would have seen implant cameras. And of course magic tricks are mere tricks. This is not magic though, even by definition.

Dude, you're saying: "We didn't see anything, therefore this must be the supernatural".

These things are designed to fool gullible people like you

It worked.

 

[warpus]

Trying to explain supernatural awareness to a skeptic is like trying to explain colors to a person who was blind since birth. You know the light spectrum exist because you can see it with your normal eyesight. Try explaining it to the blind person. If the blind person is skeptical, you will never convince them that colors exist because they are unable to sense them. It's the same with psychics vs. non-psychics.

Yeah, the big difference is that there are no blind people claiming to see and being exposed as frauds by other blind people

That's the difference and the reason why your comparison is flawed.

Hey Atlas, don't worry. I won't be like the others here and say that the psychic could not have possibly had powers. Funny how they accuse people like you of being unscientific, and then dismiss all claims of psychic powers without invesigation.

There have been studies done on 'amazing psychic abilities' and there has never been any conclusive evidence that any "psychic" has any actual supernatural powers. Until there is anything conclusive in that department, done using proper scientific methods, you can expect a whole lot of ing

 

[Atlas14]

Dude, you're saying: "We didn't see anything, therefore this must be the supernatural".

These things are designed to fool gullible people like you

It worked.

Gullible? There is no other explanation for it. That is the bottom line. You have provided crap for proof against it, when I asked for it. Way to go!

Your rejection of observation is no better than my acceptance of it. There is Zero way the psycic could have known who the people in the pictures were by their exact names, what they were doing in the pic, and when the photo was taken without being psycic. End of story. See my earlier posts before you play the whole "it was a set-up with the audience" routine. It wasn't.

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

If you know somebody who goes to a psychic or palm reader, you take a stick, hit them, and say loudly "no!"

 

[puglover]

What's to investigate? We can't investigate his memory.

We can't. That doesn't mean the psychic wasn't real.

All I can say is that there are people who have investigated this stuff and have yet to find any proof that its real. Some are scientists, some are magicians (like the Amazing Randi, who I linked previously).

Its hokum.

BUT, they do need believers, otherwise, they couldn't make a living.

Trust me, I don't believe any psychics are really using powers. But I do not discount all psychics just because none have been found to be real.

 

[Ansar]

My parents went to a palm reader.

I swear on my life, everything became true.

 

[puglover]

My parents went to a palm reader.

I swear on my life, everything became true.

How vague were the predictions?

 

[Ansar]

How vague were the predictions?

Not really vague.

It said in 2 years we would move to the U.S. (at that time, we had no motives of moving to the U.S.)

It said in the U.S., we would meet a hispanic man whose name started with a J who would greatly help us.

And some other stuff...

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Half of the Hispanic men in the US (or anywhere) have names that start with J (Jose, Juan, et al) and I have found them to all be helpful, usually.

 

[Evil Tyrant]

I never go to such people. My inherent physic powers tell me that if I go to them, they will con me out of money.

 

[mdwh]

Your rejection of observation is no better than my acceptance of it. There is Zero way the psycic could have known who the people in the pictures were by their exact names, what they were doing in the pic, and when the photo was taken without being psycic. End of story.

How can you make such a claim, when you have no idea what "being psychic" actually means? (I mean, can you explain the mechanism by which psychic powers work?)

And what about magicians who perform these same sorts of tricks without using psychic powers?

 

[Atlas14]

How can you make such a claim, when you have no idea what "being psychic" actually means? (I mean, can you explain the mechanism by which psychic powers work?)

And what about magicians who perform these same sorts of tricks without using psychic powers?

First of all, the psycic actions performed were nothing close to being the same as what a magician would perform. Secondly, I do not have to understand the mechanism to know it exists.

 

[luiz]

Trying to explain supernatural awareness to a skeptic is like trying to explain colors to a person who was blind since birth. You know the light spectrum exist because you can see it with your normal eyesight. Try explaining it to the blind person. If the blind person is skeptical, you will never convince them that colors exist because they are unable to sense them. It's the same with psychics vs. non-psychics.

The reality is that there are people willing to pay fortunes for proven supernatural powers. Since most people like honest money, I can only assume there are no supernatural powers whatsoever.

There are no proofs, it has never been scientifically proven, and the burden of proof is on the supposed supernatural folks.

 

[mdwh]

Trying to explain supernatural awareness to a skeptic is like trying to explain colors to a person who was blind since birth. You know the light spectrum exist because you can see it with your normal eyesight. Try explaining it to the blind person. If the blind person is skeptical, you will never convince them that colors exist because they are unable to sense them. It's the same with psychics vs. non-psychics.

Well that's false - I can't see UV light, but I believe it exists *because there is reproducable evidence that it exists*.

And I suspect that most blind people are happy to accept that the light spectrum exists too.

 

[King Flevance]

Some people do not wish to see it. This ties in with that whole "not enough proof that God exists thing". Someone that doesn't see it will make their mind come up with some 'logical' explanation of how it is false. It's just the way it is. I know that psychic powers exist. But I won't be able to convince anyone on here or anywhere else in life by soley a testimony. SO, there is no use trying.

You either see it or you don't.

 

[Narz]

This thread is a troll. But I guess since there's no fortunetellers here... let the show go on.

My ex used to go to psychics. Why not? It's more entertaining than most movies. I'd rather get my palm read than have to sit thru Superman Returns again or pay for a week of cable TV.

 

[warpus]

I know that psychic powers exist.

Yeah, and some people "know" that ghosts exist, some people "know" that mermaids exist, and some people "know" that little grey men exist.

If you're gonna make an extraordinary claim, you'll need extraordinary evidence to back it up with. Burden of proof lies with you, sorry buddy. Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you're just making this up.