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Dumb and Stupid Quotes Thread: Idiotic Source and Context are Key.
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Man, this guy's twitter is a ride. Never seen somebody try to hybridise wacko vegan conspiracy theories and and wacko Afrocentric conspiracy theories before, but, jeez, I guess his therapeutic juices really are that powerful.
"Tragically, Engels got drunk at a wedding, came back home & sat on [his pet hedgehog], thereby killing the poor creature. He had it stuffed & mounted. I feel there may be a complex metaphor there about capitalism that I am too lazy to develop."
-Tom Holland
-Tom Holland
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Apparently a human hand is more reliable than a machine. According to studies conducted by the organization of the owners of said hands, of course.
"Often animals have to be re-shot or re-electrocuted because the stun was ineffective first time round, causing unnecessary suffering. Shechita avoids such problems because there are no mechanical or electrical parts to go wrong."
-"Why can't shechita be adapted to account for modern developments in animal slaughter techniques?", ShechitaUK FAQ
"Often animals have to be re-shot or re-electrocuted because the stun was ineffective first time round, causing unnecessary suffering. Shechita avoids such problems because there are no mechanical or electrical parts to go wrong."
-"Why can't shechita be adapted to account for modern developments in animal slaughter techniques?", ShechitaUK FAQ
According to Woke historiography, all current troubles were caused by the first evil-minded black guy, who went on to create robots - the offspring of which are the white people we all know and hate.
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It is a historical fact that half of Bohemia was of African descent.
"Africa is literally south of europe, ships existed, roads existed. There were black people in Czech lands."
-ellenok, comment on Is KCD a toxic community?, Transgamers Subreddit
"Africa is literally south of europe, ships existed, roads existed. There were black people in Czech lands."
-ellenok, comment on Is KCD a toxic community?, Transgamers Subreddit
Farm Boy
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Unless I totally screwed up everything concluded in Temple Grandin's pain/fear/distress studies on slaughterhouses, shechita can be done nearly painlessly with no mechanical or electrical parts. It's a matter of proper design in the restraints and in a rapid upward cut that doesn't allow either cut to close over the knife or for the point to enter. Like 95%+ of calves not reacting or displaying pain at all levels of reliability, no? I wouldn't pit electrocution against that. Might be easier to watch, though. Depending.
There is a question mark over how good it is, as there is an artery supplying the brain that goes down the spinal column. Some people claim that the blood pressure drop caused by the severing of the carotid artery will cause unconsciousness of the brain immediately, others claim that the blood supply from the spinal artery can allow consciousness even when it does not allow responsiveness.
In my opinion any difference here is far outweighed by all the other welfare issues involved in modern meat production, but this is not a settled question. I am convinced that either method is better than Lethal Injection.
Farm Boy
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Well, sure, there's usually deeper in the rabbit hole to go, but already at respectably processed shechita we're pretty easily clearing the "humane slaughter" bar above a guillotine, above how we administer human executions, above hunting, and probably above the animal dying of disease and the health decay of age. We could probably do better with drugs(but maybe not! like with capital punishment), but then that poisons the meat. We might be able to do better with something that literally splatters the brain, is that where we would have to be going to look for theoretically possible improvement?
I am really not in a position to give any expert comment on where we would be looking, but the captive bolt plus "liquidise the CNS with a coil of wire through the hole" method seems very sensible to me. A number of places use carbon dioxide, which an an anesthetic and does not poison the meat, but I am aware that increased doses of CO2 can cause respiratory distress so I am not convinced by it. I learnt that breathing air with reduced both CO2 and O2 was particularly dangerous as it caused death without respiratory distress, so I am surprised that is not used in preference, but there is probably a reason.
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Well, shooting it in the head does seem to probably be acceptable, yes.
CO2 stunning is slow, expensive to install, expensive to operate. It's slower and more expensive yet if the CO2 is used to suffocate the animals rather than stun them for killing during the window before they wake back up.
It's rough, if we want to move away from large, industrialized centralization of food production and process(which I'm not convinced anyone actually cares about in number), then the simple economics are that guys with two dozen hens or maybe a pig or a couple litters are going to need to be able to just kill them as ethically as they can manage with sharp blades - they aren't going to be able to swing the regulations that can be more reasonably imposed on an operation that clears more than 5,000 animals a year or so.
CO2 stunning is slow, expensive to install, expensive to operate. It's slower and more expensive yet if the CO2 is used to suffocate the animals rather than stun them for killing during the window before they wake back up.
It's rough, if we want to move away from large, industrialized centralization of food production and process(which I'm not convinced anyone actually cares about in number), then the simple economics are that guys with two dozen hens or maybe a pig or a couple litters are going to need to be able to just kill them as ethically as they can manage with sharp blades - they aren't going to be able to swing the regulations that can be more reasonably imposed on an operation that clears more than 5,000 animals a year or so.
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"I’m not even joking. If Trump announced that he was building giant Sentinel robots to target people of color, would you even be surprised? I wouldn’t.
This is the timeline we’re in."
- Brianna Wu, Candidate for US House of Representatives in MA District 8
Source in spoiler below, because responses contain some swearwords.
This is the timeline we’re in."
- Brianna Wu, Candidate for US House of Representatives in MA District 8
Source in spoiler below, because responses contain some swearwords.
Spoiler :
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Does that come before or after the extermination camps?
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Spoiler Sample lyrics for Absurdism :
-Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus (translation by Justin O'Brien)
Also, Mr. Camus, it's more of a cloud than an orbit. A pity you surrendered to the absurd before the advent of electronic devices.
"Things are going quite well for the French at Verdun and they are not the least bit anxious about it [...] It is part of our policy to let the Germans beat themselves to death against the stone wall [...] The Germans have lost enormously and they can't afford to."
-Bernard Law Montgomery, letter written in March 1916
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"My views on the fighting at Verdun were not in any way in accordance with the true facts."
-Bernard Law Montgomery, postwar annotation of letter, quoted in Hamilton, Monty: The Making of a General
-Bernard Law Montgomery, letter written in March 1916
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"My views on the fighting at Verdun were not in any way in accordance with the true facts."
-Bernard Law Montgomery, postwar annotation of letter, quoted in Hamilton, Monty: The Making of a General
Zkribbler
Deity
Wait, the Gamergate girl?
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"I'm not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite." - Louis Farrakhan, a man who has met with countless Democrats (including Bill Clinton) and was praised by the leaders of the women's march.
It was yesterday on Twitter, in case you're thinking he's just a 'hidden' anti-Semite.
It was yesterday on Twitter, in case you're thinking he's just a 'hidden' anti-Semite.
