Even CNBC now admins that machines will replace labor

[Kozmos]

You think engineering is easier than law?

It is here. Engineering's toughest cookies here are Thermodynamics and Math 1. Law...well there's way more to learn. Including Roman Law and arguing skills. Don't know how those two fare abroad.

Realistically, would anyone want an engineering degree? Only those who have a strong math background would be willing to peruse that degree. You can't just say ad hom "Go get an engineering degree" because realistically, not everyone can do the math.

Sure they can. It is just not as easy as sitting down and reading a massive slab of text for whatever else. Properly taught, math is really not that hard even when you have neglected it for years. (and I have)

 

[Zelig]

Sure they can. It is just not as easy as sitting down and reading a massive slab of text for whatever else. Properly taught, math is really not that hard even when you have neglected it for years. (and I have)

If you're reading massive slabs of text for the purpose of doing well in classes, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Kozmos]

If you're reading massive slabs of text for the purpose of doing well in classes, you're doing it wrong.

I'm not sure what you are studying or what the system is like in a normal 1st world country, but here you pretty much have to know the slab by heart if you want to pass.

 

[squall78]

by the time this comes into the equation hopefully i'll be long retired with a nice pension.

actually it'll probably take a long time just to replace low skilled labor. hopefully atc won't be automated by next gen anytime soon. i wanna put in my 25 years lol.

 

[Archbob]

You act like there is no such thing as the pointy haired boss and the Peter Principle. They don't work hard yet have a high salary

They have to rise through the ranks to get there, you don't start there. And most top-level managers work harder than your average 9 to 5 employee. Many are constantly traveling for business trips. CEOs average far more hours than the average 8 hour workday.

 

[Souron]

Law and engineering take different skills. A lawyer needs to be able to consume large quantities of information, and regurgitate them near to verbatim. Engineering requires understanding a lot of concepts, and be able to do math with them.

 

[Kozmos]

They have to rise through the ranks to get there, you don't start there. And most top-level managers work harder than your average 9 to 5 employee. Many are constantly traveling for business trips. CEOs average far more hours than the average 8 hour workday.

Management is still the devils business. Hopefully it will get replaced by machines

 

[Archbob]

Management is still the devils business. Hopefully it will get replaced by machines

I'm guessing you could probably replace most of them with machines and do just as well as a business. But the truly extraordinary ones like Gates or Jobs you probably couldn't.

Basically, you need a human to actually found a make a business decently large then you could use robots in place of management for the most part I would guess.

 

[MobBoss]

Time to break out the Neo-Luddites. You 1%ers really want to keep the poor down .

Plus, not all trades will be replaced by machines. There will still be manual labor that will need the attention of human hands.

Well....that will be true until we can figure out how to make the robot carry a mop and bucket.

 

[Archbob]

Well....that will be true until we can figure out how to make the robot carry a mop and bucket.

I think the Japanese already have those.

 

[Kozmos]

I'm guessing you could probably replace most of them with machines and do just as well as a business. But the truly extraordinary ones like Gates or Jobs you probably couldn't.

Basically, you need a human to actually found a make a business decently large then you could use robots in place of management for the most part I would guess.

Well yes, I don't really have that big of a problem with management except that the paychecks for low, mid and especially high management is very disproportionate when you compare them to the technical jocks even when you consider their longer hours. It is not exactly physical labour what they are doing. It is this whole illusion of a cushy job nowadays that bothers me. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty and those that don't do so by taking a lion share of the work that do. God I sound like a teenage communist or something. Bleh.

I know I'm not making a lot of sense, I blame the cold and reduced oxygen flow to the brain.

 

[dIZZyBlIZZy]

by the time this comes into the equation hopefully i'll be long retired with a nice pension.

actually it'll probably take a long time just to replace low skilled labor. hopefully atc won't be automated by next gen anytime soon. i wanna put in my 25 years lol.

Depends on the field. My job is not going to be replaced by a machine anytime soon, nor any other in my industry. It's not possible. A machine can't tell if someone is trying to pull inmate games.

Management is still the devils business. Hopefully it will get replaced by machines

Yes, all bending units.

 

[Archbob]

Well yes, I don't really have that big of a problem with management except that the paychecks for low, mid and especially high management is very disproportionate when you compare them to the technical jocks even when you consider their longer hours. It is not exactly physical labour what they are doing. It is this whole illusion of a cushy job nowadays that bothers me. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty and those that don't do so by taking a lion share of the work that do. God I sound like a teenage communist or something. Bleh.

I know I'm not making a lot of sense, I blame the cold and reduced oxygen flow to the brain.

Actually technical managers tend to make more than regular managers and they do actually make the tough decisions and do that actual work.

 

[JollyRoger]

So are machines going to replace consumers? Not going to be much demand from humans.

 

[wolfigor]

I, For One, Welcome Our New Cybernetic Overlords

 

[Kozmos]

Actually technical managers tend to make more than regular managers and they do actually make the tough decisions and do that actual work.

Obviously, but TD is a mixed beast. Part manager, part code inspector and software analyst. I'm okay with that a lot more than the "Boy, bring me a macchiato and a chocolate croissant" guys.

 

[innonimatu]

So are machines going to replace consumers? Not going to be much demand from humans.

That's where the whole idea fails: machines can replace some more workers on the production of industrial, mass consumer goods. On agriculture there's not much more room for mechanization in developed countries. And on services machines are always tricky to use, because the backgrounder is so mutable (hing: it's not economical to builds robots for short-term work). In services it's humans vs. software, but also humans doing and using software, so I don't see much further change there.

The reality is that there is already an unemployment problem, and it'll get somewhat worse. But all other things cannot remain the same, for a simple reason: for each product there must be a consumer, or the factory closes down and the robots are headed for scrap. Thus the unemployment problem must be solved, it cannot persist, or the whole economy and the political system it supports will come crashing down, as soon as debt ceases growing in order to enable deficit consumption. The imbalances are accumulating, but it cannot go on forever.

 

[Cutlass]

Nice try. Tools and machines have been replacing labor since the dawn of civilization. You aren't saying anything that everyone didn't know who has ever given the matter any thought.

It only becomes a problem, though, when wages don't rise with productivity.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Also I can imagine there being a market for "human-made products."

 

[amadeus]

When will a random number generator replace Jim Cramer?