Evidence for creationism, Part 2.

[ParkCungHee]

Edit: Nevermind

 

[ParkCungHee]

*cough* bull *cough* no facts *cough* just religious crap without proper founding in logic, reason, physics, or biology.

Or, you know, religion.

 

[Ajidica]

we have to remember that god brought all the animals to noah not the other way around. so there were some supernatural "beyond gods normal way of doings things" going on behind the scene. i hope this helps.

So while the animals were on the ark, God was a literal [excrement]-handler?

That job must suck. A few thousand years ago he created the universe, now he is shoveling elephant crap.

 

[GhostWriter16]

So while the animals were on the ark, God was a literal [excrement]-handler?

That job must suck. A few thousand years ago he created the universe, now he is shoveling elephant crap.

Well, he could have just spoke to it and made it disappear, I don't know.

 

[Ajidica]

Well, he could have just spoke to it and made it disappear, I don't know.

So God was still a [excrement]-handler then.

Is there any biblical evidence for your position? Or are you relying on tradition?

 

[Behind The Mask]

Well, he could have just spoke to it and made it disappear, I don't know.

Maybe he kept those rare few dinosaurs around to do the dirty work of shoveling excrement.

You're hardly even trying anymore.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

It seems like whenever I find something out, there is always someone who says that everyone knows it's wrong and that I'm an idiot for ever thing that it could be right, and then say what the right thing is, and then when I think that's the right thing, someone then says I'm an idiot for ever thinking that was right, and that the thing I found out first is the right thing. I guess I should learn to accept that I'm always wrong about everything and that I'll always be stupid and hated by everyone.

 

[Behind The Mask]

It seems like whenever I find something out, there is always someone who says that everyone knows it's wrong and that I'm an idiot for ever thing that it could be right, and then say what the right thing is, and then when I think that's the right thing, someone then says I'm an idiot for ever thinking that was right, and that the thing I found out first is the right thing. I guess I should learn to accept that I'm always wrong about everything and that I'll always be stupid and hated by everyone.

Shut up.

If you're gonna try and have a belief then get one; don't piggyback off others...

 

[Ajidica]

When have we said we hate you or that you are an idiot?
Just start reading wikipedia articles and expand from there. If someone asserts something that is directly opposite to what you know, ask them for their source and evaluate that source.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I'm sorry. I guess I'll always get people mad at me.

 

[uppi]

It did. That dome of water was where much of the Flood water came from.

If you had only the tiniest bit of understanding of thermodynamics you would realize, that this is absolute nonsense. No matter how you imagine this might have happened, it would always result in a dramatically higher temperature. Noah and his ark would have been cooked to the point, where it would have been an ideal place to find out which animal on earth tastes best.

In fact this idea is so stupid that even the leading creationists have distanced themselves from it.

 

[GhostWriter16]

So God was still a [excrement]-handler then.

Is there any biblical evidence for your position? Or are you relying on tradition?

I am guessing. I have no idea.

 

[Ajidica]

I am guessing. I have no idea.

Okay, but going back to Noah's ark:
Can you tell me what the original dog brought onto Noah's ark was? Or did that dog die out as it was unable to adapt to the changes in the enviroment?

 

[magicfan101]

The danger of toxic or explosive manure gases, such as methane, would be alleviated by the constant movement of the Ark, which would have allowed manure gases to be constantly released. Secondly, methane, which is half the density of air, would quickly find its way out of a small opening such as a window. There is no reason to believe that the levels of these gases within the Ark would have approached hazardous levels.

Alternatively, sloped floors would have allowed the waste to flow into large central gutters. Noah’s family could have then dumped this overboard without an excessive expenditure of manpower

John Woodmorappe two B.A. degrees and an M.A. in geology

there is plenty of modern evidence to suggest that Noah had the know how to accomplish this.
look at how greeks and romans built incredible structures like aqueducts and that knowledge was lost to medieval Europe. the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines which could only be made if they used some type of flight

 

[Ajidica]

there is plenty of modern evidence to suggest that Noah had the know how to accomplish this.

[Citation Needed]

look at how greeks and romans built incredible structures like aqueducts and that knowledge was lost to medieval Europe.

Not really. Do you think primitives could have built Notre Dame?

the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines which could only be made if they used some type of flight

Next time read your own source:

Researcher Joe Nickell of the University of Kentucky has reproduced the figures by using tools and technology available to the Nazca people. The National Geographic called his work "remarkable in its exactness" when compared to the actual lines.[3] With careful planning and simple technologies, a small team of people could recreate even the largest figures within days, without any aerial assistance.[4] Most of the lines form a trench about six inches deep.

 

[magicfan101]

Okay, but going back to Noah's ark:
Can you tell me what the original dog brought onto Noah's ark was? Or did that dog die out as it was unable to adapt to the changes in the enviroment?

all dogs come from one wolf kind even the biased wiki confirms this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies_of_Canis_lupus

 

[Ajidica]

all dogs come from one wolf kind even the biased wiki confirms this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies_of_Canis_lupus

When did the great flood occur according to the bible?
If it occured around 6,000 years ago, then you are claiming evolution happened far faster then even the most optomistic of scientists would assert.

 

[Cu Chulainn]

Yep, and proud of it!

You take such pride in being wrong. Have you ever considered running for governor of Alaska?

I really should report this as a personal insult. But instead I'll let you defend that.

Young Earth Creationism is an idiotic belief which demonstrates an extreme level of credulity and scientific ignorance on the part of the believer. There has never been a single solitary shred of evidence to support it, and there is evidence against it in every field of science.

@Ziggy- Well then, I admit you are correct. It is impossible to prove Creationism.

Thread over!

 

[magicfan101]

Researcher Joe Nickell of the University of Kentucky has reproduced the figures by using tools and technology available to the Nazca people. The National Geographic called his work "remarkable in its exactness" when compared to the actual lines.[3] With careful planning and simple technologies, a small team of people could recreate even the largest figures within days, without any aerial assistance.[4] Most of the lines form a trench about six inches deep

this proves it took a phd scientist and a couple people with foresight and modern knowlege to accomplish this structure note the words "With careful planning" in the next sentence

 

[bathsheba666]

I am guessing. I have no idea.

It would have saved a lot of pointless entries on all sides if you had realised this from the start.