Evidence for creationism

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I don't really understand when people say they believe in microevolution but not macroevolution. There's no fundamental difference between those two things. They're the same process over different spans of time.
 
@Dom:
first of all, you allow WAY more evolution per time to explain all the dog breeding than classic evolution.

but I have a few questions for you:

- how many people built the Pyramids, and in what year?
- how many people were in Xerxes' army?
- please define 'kind' in the context of mammals

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First question: I think the accepted year is 3,000 BC (Or something) with 35,000 slaves. I accept that conclusion.

Second Question: No idea. What does that have to do with it?

Third Question: Not sure exactly, if it means species or genus or what. Not really sure. I just know there is no evolution amongst the higher taxa.
 
Third Question: Not sure exactly, if it means species or genus or what. Not really sure. I just know there is no evolution amongst the higher taxa.
It would have to be species, then- without evolution, anything about the level of the species is entirely arbitrary, a human convenience. Once can only introduce objectivity with a cladistic model.
 
Third Question: Not sure exactly, if it means species or genus or what. Not really sure. I just know there is no evolution amongst the higher taxa.
So you don't know anything about how evolution works, don't know any of the biological terms (you'd hardly be alone though) and yet you somehow still "know" that it doesn't work?
 
Yes. What you are telling me is that all those dogs, as well as all the cats, people, birds, exc. came from some germ 4 billion years ago. Your way is less believable.
No, you just have no sense of scale.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. If all flightless species of animals in the whole world that are alive today were on the ark...bloody hell, how did they all fit? I mean that's millions upon millions of different species of animal...where did they all go?

I mean I think you'd be hard-pressed just to fit all the species of spiders on the ark, let alone the entire insect kingdom, let alone let alone all the other millions of different species of animals.
 
Dinosaurs had feathers?

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Nah, must be as fake as the Turin Shroud!

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I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. If all flightless species of animals in the whole world that are alive today were on the ark...bloody hell, how did they all fit? I mean that's millions upon millions of different species of animal...where did they all go?

I mean I think you'd be hard-pressed just to fit all the species of spiders on the ark, let alone the entire insect kingdom, let alone let alone all the other millions of different species of animals.

I presume here is where "Kind" differs from species. I suspect there were only two spiders on the ark period. And only two dogs, two cats, two monkeys, exc. and microevolution took care of the rest.
 
I presume here is where "Kind" differs from species. I suspect there were only two spiders on the ark period. And only two dogs, two cats, two monkeys, exc. and microevolution took care of the rest.
Microevolution is simply the building blocks of macroevolution.
 
Goodgame, please spoiler that picture!

"Micro-evolution" is just a fancy term used by creationists who can't deny genetic variation and whom think that speciation is an affront before the Lord. (Evolutionism and creationism aren't opposed in the slightest, but that doesn't stop the creationists from trying.)
 
I presume here is where "Kind" differs from species. I suspect there were only two spiders on the ark period. And only two dogs, two cats, two monkeys, exc. and microevolution took care of the rest.
You do realise that each one of those are unscientific folk taxa, don't you? "Spiders" aren't even a single infraorder, let alone anything so narrow as to constitute a realistic "kind".

Certainly, if you argue for two "monkeys", then one must accept that apes evolved from that kind- how else could New World monkeys be more closely related to apes than Old World monkeys if this were not so?- and from there it is not a great step to argue that humans, too, came from a similar line...
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. If all flightless species of animals in the whole world that are alive today were on the ark...bloody hell, how did they all fit? I mean that's millions upon millions of different species of animal...where did they all go?
Simple: all flightless species of animals that Noah knew of.

Side note: I'm an atheist.
 
@Dom:
first of all, you allow WAY more evolution per time to explain all the dog breeding than classic evolution.

but I have a few questions for you:

- how many people built the Pyramids, and in what year?
- how many people were in Xerxes' army?
- please define 'kind' in the context of mammals

:)
Why didn't the Egyptians notice the global flood? Persistent buggers just kept right on building monuments all the way through, it would seem.

How did the kangaroos get from Australia to Mesopotamia and back, and why didn't they choose to stop anywhere else to live?

How did all those species of fish cope with the change in salinity?
 
Why didn't the Egyptians notice the global flood? Persistent buggers just kept right on building monuments all the way through, it would seem.
God made it like that to test our faith.

How did the kangaroos get from Australia to Mesopotamia and back, and why didn't they choose to stop anywhere else to live?
Gods will. (Deus Vult)
How did all those species of fish cope with the change in salinity?
Deus Vult!
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Oddly enought, the warcry of the Crusaders was Deus lo vult!
 
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