Explain why you dont beileve in god if your athiest.

You asked a question, you got an answer. Also, you might not want to equate childishness with losing an argument, or you might be insulting yourself somewhat.

I dont think you get what i meant. Losing an argument is not childish, but his response was.

Im in for a good joke as long as its actually FUNNY!
 
All religions do not even believe in an eternity in hell.
True. In that case, those that follow such religions shouldn't be insulted by that joke, as it's clearly not aimed at them... right?
I dont think you get what i meant. Losing an argument is not childish, but his response was.

Im in for a good joke as long as its actually FUNNY!
And whether something is funny or not is completely subjective.
 
You're missing the point: I probably fall under both of the definitions. I'm not ruling out the possibility that God exists (that would be irrational), but I do not believe that he does.


Then you are agnostic. Don't be ashamed. You can actively disbelieve the existance of god and be an agnostic. Beleive me I have heard true atheists speak their minds and you are not cut from the same cloth. You're open-minded. ;)
 
True. In that case, those that follow such religions shouldn't be insulted by that joke, as it's clearly not aimed at them... right?

Well I do. And that's not even the only insulting thing about it. The insulting thing is that it is one more of this guy's regular attempts to bash religion. Usually by some ridiculous and unsubstantiated argument. It has not humor value, no anything value. That little piece was grade A garbage. Past the point of a flopped joke. It was a deliberate insult.
 
Well I do. And that's not even the only insulting thing about it. The insulting thing is that it is one more of this guy's regular attempts to bash religion. Usually by some ridiculous and unsubstantiated argument. It has not humor value, no anything value. That little piece was grade A garbage. Past the point of a flopped joke. It was a deliberate insult.

Well, I wasn't entirely serious with that last remark. Anyway, whatever you think of it, I found it entertaining. There have been plenty of articles written on the other side of the argument that make my blood boil. I just don't lower myself to reacting to them.
 
Trajan, everybody needs to find the glaring parts of their own beliefs, and sometimes an insulting joke does the trick.
 
Me personally, i'm more so of a Strong Agnostic

I don't really believe in a god because the concept of "god" means so many different things to so many different people, with so many viewpoints as to what pleases "him" or what he wants to see out of us humans. It is my belief that if god were truly divine, humans wouldn't be able to understand, comprehend, let alone explain his motivations. If god is greater than humans, who are we to explain him/it/her?
 
All religions do not even believe in an eternity in hell.

Correct. This was aimed pretty squarely at traditional Christianity. And it was rated 'pretty funny' at this household. Could punch it up with a few judicious snips of the editors scissors though. :D

(I hear some denominations downplay the whole 'hell thing'? Is why I put that 'traditional' up there. By way of explanation.)
 
I am atheist when it comes to the Christian/Muslim/Jewish God. I am atheist when it comes to the Hindu Gods, or the Aztec Gods, or whatever other Gods that people have worshipped in the past.

I do not believe in these Gods because there is no evidence that they exist. This is very simple. There is no evidence that Peter Pan exists, so I don't believe in him either.

When it comes to a God of some sort, I am agnostic. I admit that some sort of a God could exist, but don't believe that anyone has evidence for this, which is why I reject all the religions.
 
Damn... all the cool people at civfanatics are athiest now.

It used to be ok just being agnostic. :cry:
 
Me personally, i'm more so of a Strong Agnostic

I don't really believe in a god because the concept of "god" means so many different things to so many different people, with so many viewpoints as to what pleases "him" or what he wants to see out of us humans. It is my belief that if god were truly divine, humans wouldn't be able to understand, comprehend, let alone explain his motivations. If god is greater than humans, who are we to explain him/it/her?

Same way as we explain so much of the rest of the universe. What makes God so special that we wouldn't be able to understand him?
 
i duno y lol
 
Same way as we explain so much of the rest of the universe. What makes God so special that we wouldn't be able to understand him?

God is above all. God is above the universe.

For example, people saying God doesn't like homosexuality. Ok fine, you don't like homosexuality, but how can you say God doesn't? Especially when another god-believer has no qualms with it?

:crazyeye: :crazyeye: :crazyeye:
 
Unser Giftzwerg your logic is flawed my friend, and you are actually missing the point. Just because Gogf said he doesn't rule out the possibility (he is rational after all, as am I) doesn't mean he is agnostic. Agnosticism is a bankrupt position to be in. Everyone who is reasonable is agnostic to say, winning the lottery, even though they know that the odds of achieving such are so that it almost certainly will never happen to them.

If you think the odds of winning the lottery are nothing short of dreaming (16,000,000 - 1 here in the UK). The odds of god existing are FAR, FAR bigger. Almost to the size of infinity to one, so claiming to be 'agnostic' is nothing but insulting.

Atheism is a lack of belief, despite certain posts in this thread. It is not a belief at all, to suggest so is misuse of the term.

There is no god, because if indeed there was the following would not be true:

1/ The world in which he created his prized creation (humans) would not be 3/4 inhabitable to us.

2/ Nor would every one of the 12 billion light years worth of space surrounding the pale blue dot we call home (and that's just this universe, there may well be a mutlitude of them).

3/ There would not be numerous gods.

4/ God would would not be the filler of gaps in our scientific knowledge, which is what he is and always will be, gaps which are thankfully getting smaller I might add.

5/ Morals would indeed come from scripture, but it doesn't. We do not stone homosexuals to death anymore, or allow the killing of adulterers, I could go on but the point is, we apply the writing to are own morals as we see them not how the bible (or koran) see them.

6/ Jesus would not have been a stereotypical 'hero' in the mould of many before (and after him). Indeed Jesus would never have needed to have been invented at all, God would not have felt the need to punish himself for the sins of his creation (again before and after the fact) which brings we onto the following point.

7/ As a designer God is inept and sadistic, 3 of the first 4 humans he 'created' disobeyed him. Not only that but they put the rest of humanity in gods 'bad book' only so he could sacrifice himself in order to appease his own satisfaction!

I could go on, but I think I've gave 'some' reasons for not believing. ;)
 
If your link is not an insult it doesnt make any sense. :rolleyes:

Sorry, I didn't realize you were a follower of Hank and would be offended. I will refrain from criticizing Hank in the future.
 
The scientist in me says that the burden of proof falls on those making the assertion. The assertion that God exists is not and has never been backed up by any scientifically sound argument, so it should be dismissed until at least a shred of evidence is uncovered.
 
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