[RD] Feminism

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Guys, I just watched a documentary called "The Red Pill" last night (link). I thought it was fantastic. It was created by a feminist who investigates the Men's Rights movement. Lots of eye opening stuff in there, I highly recommend everybody to watch it.
 
I have heard it is a good documentary, but they picked a horrible name for it. The Red Pill movement is a mysognistic movement related to the pick up artist scene. As far as I know. A lot of people are going to ignore this documentary due to the name alone.
 
So the Wildrose Party supports it? That's about all I need to know, to avoid it. That party is anti-choice, anti-LGBT rights, anti-same sex marriage, even anti-sex education in schools. Some of the supporters of that party want creationism in science classes.

It's the Conservative Party with extra religion. About the only thing their leader ever said that I agree with is that its supporters should stop threatening Rachel Notley's life (she's the current Premier).
 
I have heard it is a good documentary, but they picked a horrible name for it. The Red Pill movement is a mysognistic movement related to the pick up artist scene. As far as I know. A lot of people are going to ignore this documentary due to the name alone.
I think they intended it as a reference to the Matrix. That PUA scene isn't really related (though they do mention them briefly in the documentary), they just used the same name. Either way, people should be more open minded!
 
It's definitely a reference to the subreddit. That subreddit has a lot of crossover with the MRA thing as the cover the same talking points. The MRA talking points serve TRP primarily as evidence that the mainstream is "all lies" and that it really is okay to behave in their suggested way while ignoring the political fight feminism is asking you to take up.

When I was most into orthodox 3rd wave feminism (2012/2013) I had the worst game because I was afraid of abusing my privilege. Since TRP is about getting laid it's effective to brainwash its members away from such distractions.

A lot of TRP project their ideological assistance all the way in their minds, like what's a good poon-slaying meta-game (disregard feminism in your personal quest) is True For All Time And Space, projected across species and let alone cultures. This makes sense as calories spent juggling complexity takes away from calories spent winning. Personally I think it's permissible as some level 1 retraining—it's important to have game or you're minimizing love shared among humans—but ultimately denying truth is weakness.
 
It's definitely a reference to the subreddit. That subreddit has a lot of crossover with the MRA thing as the cover the same talking points. The MRA talking points serve TRP primarily as evidence that the mainstream is "all lies" and that it really is okay to behave in their suggested way while ignoring the political fight feminism is asking you to take up.

When I was most into orthodox 3rd wave feminism (2012/2013) I had the worst game because I was afraid of abusing my privilege. Since TRP is about getting laid it's effective to brainwash its members away from such distractions.

A lot of TRP project their ideological assistance all the way in their minds, like what's a good poon-slaying meta-game (disregard feminism in your personal quest) is True For All Time And Space, projected across species and let alone cultures. This makes sense as calories spent juggling complexity takes away from calories spent winning. Personally I think it's permissible as some level 1 retraining—it's important to have game or you're minimizing love shared among humans—but ultimately denying truth is weakness.
Could you repeat this in normal English, please?
 
Have you seen the doc? It's not about picking up girls at all.
I'll bet you, having not watched it, that the subreddit is the inspiration for the name even though her documentary was about politics(?) and not game. I read a lot of that subreddit a while back. A large chunk is devoted to MRA political stuff. All the talking points covered in the wiki I learned on TRP.

Could you repeat this in normal English, please?
TRP stands for "The Red Pill" as in the subreddit and not the myriad other "red pills" that took The Matrix as inspiration. "poon-slaying" means having sex from a male-gaze. MRA is mens rights activists. The rest of it is up to you to read more carefully or ask specific questions.

You could also ask @GoodSarmatian to help you. :p He understand exactly what I wrote in the water/tipping thread.
 
I'll bet you, having not watched it, that the subreddit is the inspiration for the name even though her documentary was about politics(?) and not game. I read a lot of that subreddit a while back. A large chunk is devoted to MRA political stuff. All the talking points covered in the wiki I learned on TRP.
They explicitly say in the film that it's a reference to The Matrix. I think what happened is MRA used it first, then some guys decided to apply the ideas to picking up girls and adopted the Matrix reference for themselves.
 
Thanks. Upon reflection, maybe this is stuff I really don't want to know. As for the references to The Matrix, all I know about that is that it's a movie starring Keanu Reeves.
 
They explicitly say in the film that it's a reference to The Matrix. I think what happened is MRA used it first, then some guys decided to apply the ideas to picking up girls and adopted the Matrix reference for themselves.

Given the overlap between MRA crybabies and wannabe irresponsible "players" it's no surprise they adopted similar terminology...and that makes the question of who got there first pretty much moot.
 
You should watch the doc :) I think it'll give you a much better perspective on MRAs.

By "better" I suppose you mean "more like yours." I'm not really interested enough in joining the MRA crybabies to burn the time. They're just another group motivated by "it isn't fair to us that we are losing some of the outrageous privileges that we have previously enjoyed" while having no compassion for those who have not enjoyed such privileges ever.
 
By "better" I suppose you mean "more like yours." I'm not really interested enough in joining the MRA crybabies to burn the time. They're just another group motivated by "it isn't fair to us that we are losing some of the outrageous privileges that we have previously enjoyed" while having no compassion for those who have not enjoyed such privileges ever.
Haha, you're almost quoting one of the feminists in the movie at this point. They directly address this line of thinking -- I really think you would find it interesting. And if MRAs are like you say, the documentary should just confirm your views right?
 
Tim, what's wrong with being a genuine Men's Rights Activist?

Misdirected effort. It's sort of like trickle down economics. In the push for greater opportunity for all starting with those who already enjoy the best opportunity and expecting that they will then be useful in spreading it around is at best inefficient, and by this point proven ineffective.
 
Haha, you're almost quoting one of the feminists in the movie at this point. They directly address this line of thinking -- I really think you would find it interesting. And if MRAs are like you say, the documentary should just confirm your views right?

The fact you recommended it has already confirmed my views. As to me "almost quoting" someone that you have ignored...so what? Crybaby MRAs routinely dismiss the reality of their advantages so they can focus on whatever perceived slights they are crying about. There is nothing interesting about that.
 
So it's very relevant to your point of view. It would be a great exercise in hearing both sides of the argument for you.

What exactly are your qualifications that make you think I'm interested in your advice on "great exercises"?
 
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These are the redpills, folks. Surely it would be a good use of our time to learn more about how they think.
 
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