pre-release info First Look: Confucius - Discussion

[bite]

 

[FXS_Sar]

Introducing Confucius! Confucius, or Kong Fu Zi, came to prominence during the Zhou Dynasty and turned to writing following a life in government. In contrast to a political climate in which rulers vied for power and succumbed to vice, Confucius cultivated an ethos of order, harmony, and tradition. His many writings stress hard work and knowing one’s place – be you ruler or subject, parent or child. Confucian thought would influence East Asian society for centuries hence.

Agenda
Guanxi: Increase Relationship by a Medium Amount for having the most Specialists in an empire. Decrease Relationship by a Small Amount for the leader with the least amount of Specialists in an empire. Only triggers if Confucius has at least one Specialist.

Starting Biases:
Grassland

Attributes:
Expansionist
Scientific

Unique Ability
Keju: Increased Growth Rate in Cities. Increased Science from Specialists.

Game guide here!

 

[Ryansinbela]

Isn’t Guanxi also one of the traditions or am I mistaken

 

[moysturfurmer]

“Journal
Efficiency in Numbers
Have an Academy and Blacksmith on the same quarter.”

Is this a quest log maybe?

I forget if Tea and Spices are confirmed, but you can see them at 1:15

 

[queenpea]

Ming confirmed for Exploration Age. Did we know that already?

 

[8housesofelixir]

What Kongzi said at the beginning of the video is a famous line from the Analects: "Shall I tell you what it is knowledge? To say you know when you know, and to say you do not when you do not - that is knowledge." 诲女知之乎？知之为知之，不知为不知，是知也.

You can roughly hear him saying 诲女知之乎 before his voice fades out.

Spoiler :

As a Chinese historian, I still would like to point out that Guanxi is a word with mostly negative connotations in modern Chinese; it would be better to change to something from the Analects instead. I can live with it, though

 

[Siptah]

What is this? It's not in a city or town, obviously. Claiming resources outside of your borders? Trade camp of some sort? Independent people before they found a city?

 

[Bonyduck Campersang]

Ming confirmed for Exploration Age. Did Somewhatwe know that already?

unofficially. Someone noticed a Ming-era musketeer in the gameplay trailer

 

[Zaarin]

Confucius model doesn't stylistically match the other leaders we've seen--like a downgraded Civ6 model. I'm not complaining insofar as it makes him look more interesting, but he does look out of place. Ben looks more polished. Perhaps most interestingly, though, I like seeing conditions for Agendas if we have to have them--it was always annoying when Qin would whine about my wonder-making when he hadn't built a single wonder. Hopefully this means Wilhelmina won't club me with her umbrella when I'm physically incapable of trading with her.

Ming confirmed for Exploration Age. Did we know that already?

A leak suggested Han > Ming > Qing. Sounds much more certain now.

 

[Black Gate]

Ming confirmed for Exploration Age. Did we know that already?

There's been a rumour/leak about Han -> Ming -> Qing being the default Chinese path but this is the first time Ming has been confirmed.

 

[wesplaysciv]

Congrats to bite for posting this before Sarah!

 

[8housesofelixir]

We also saw what seems to be a named independent people with their own city in the video - Funan, an ancient Hinduism kingdom located in persent-day Cambodia and Thailand.

 

[Ryansinbela]

What Kongzi said at the beginning of the video is a famous line from the Analects: "Shall I teach you what knowledge is? When you know a thing, to hold that you know it; and when you do not know a thing, to allow that you do not know it; and this is knowledge." 诲女知之乎？知之为知之，不知为不知，是知也. You can roughly hear him saying 诲女知之乎 before his voice fades out.

Spoiler :

As a Chinese historian, I still would like to point out that Guanxi is a word with mostly negative connotations in modern Chinese; it would be better to change to something from the Analects instead.

Especially since it’s also the name of one of the traditions although that’s more of a nitpick

 

[FXS_Sar]

Congrats to bite for posting this before Sarah!

Bite is QUICK with it!

 

[moysturfurmer]

What is this? It's not in a city or town, obviously. Claiming resources outside of your borders? Trade camp of some sort? Independent people before they found a city?
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I believe all discoverables have that glowing blue beam of light shining out from them, so my guess is it’s a camp/deserters discoverable.

 

[Siptah]

I believe all discoverables have that glowing blue beam of light shining out from them, so my guess is it’s a camp/deserters discoverable.

That sounds like the simplest explanation. Thanks!

 

[FXS_Sar]

What is this? It's not in a city or town, obviously. Claiming resources outside of your borders? Trade camp of some sort? Independent people before they found a city?
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That would be a Discovery (similar to Goodie Huts, but now with a narrative event)!

 

[bite]

Bite is QUICK with it!

Not being able to sleep tonight, came in handy for a change

 

[Wyvern_Parade]

+25% growth seems VERY strong. And the bonus to Specialists naturally goes well with a large population.

I feel like pairing him with a happiness focused civ like Maurya to be able to maintain that growth and a large number of specialists could be better than the default Han.

 

[bite]

A Clear Shot of Zhangjiajie so that natural wonder list looks to be confirmed