[to_xp]Gekko
QCT junkie
voted best thread on CFC alongisde with the one with the picture of the worker expressing his love on cattle.
snarko said:I'll argue the opposite. If they want to win in court they have to prove that it was in fact your intent to annoy. How do you prove that? Just because someone find this post annoying doesn't mean it was my intent to annoy them...
That bit is the reason this legislation won't go anywhere.Tank_Guy#3 said:I am pressing charges on everyone here, you all annoy me!!!!
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And would that make it open for retaliation? In case the anonymous person wasn't really harassing the person.IglooDude said:That's certainly valid, but be mindful that they might not necessarily want to win in court, they might only be looking to identify the annoying poster in real life. Removing anonymity is potentially a goal in and of itself, and the simple bringing of charges is usually enough to accomplish it.
It'll likely be in the dustbin of weird laws until someone gets the bright idea to actually enforce it.MobBoss said:Another example of "feel good" legislation resulting in crap legislation.
It really, really is true...the road to hell is paved with all sorts of good intentions.
BasketCase said:That bit is the reason this legislation won't go anywhere.
This is one of the biggest issues with the size and magnitude of the U.S. government. To get something legitimate passed, like violence against women and telephone harrassment, there are leigislators who have constituents that want things added to to every bill. This is what we call "pork barrel politics" and this was the particular pork added to this one.ainwood said:What really surprises me is that the system actually allows pieces of completely unrelated legislation to be slipped-in and passed in a package-deal. Shouldn't every bit of legislation (well, topic at least) be considered seperately?
The Yankee said:And would that make it open for retaliation? In case the anonymous person wasn't really harassing the person.
And this just shows that common sense amongst our lovely members of Congress is nearly nonexistant.IglooDude said:Yes, but then the burden would be on the "annoyer" to prove that the annoyee never intended to go to trial with it; intentions are always difficult to prove.
Anyway, there is some question as to whether this law would only apply to VOIP (to bring that into line with regular telephone harassment laws) and/or whether there must be the intention to harass/annoy by the annoyer, not just whether the annoyee gets annoyed. This law will probably have less effect overall than the FBI's special task force that is going after sadomasochism on the internet; S&M websites (images, stories, forums, etc) are closing shop left and right out of fear of criminal prosecution and jail time.