For Liberty(and pwnage) Ron Paul 2012 Part II

[Cutlass]

I find that better than the other republicans who are completely bought out by large corporations.

Actually, in a lot of ways Paul is the most complete tool of special interests out there. His complete deregulation and opposition to labor is one of the most thorough special interest welfare programs out there.

 

[Cryptic_Snow]

Actually, in a lot of ways Paul is the most complete tool of special interests out there. His complete deregulation and opposition to labor is one of the most thorough special interest welfare programs out there.

If that's the case care to explain why special interests and Wall Streeters refuse to fund Ron Paul? They know the gravy train of corruption would come to an abrupt halt...Romney and Obama keep the status quo going. The average donation to Paul is about $70 and his top contributors are the various branches of the military.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Wall Street likes to back people they think have a chance of winning?

 

[Cutlass]

If that's the case care to explain why special interests and Wall Streeters refuse to fund Ron Paul? They know the gravy train of corruption would come to an abrupt halt...Romney and Obama keep the status quo going. The average donation to Paul is about $70 and his top contributors are the various branches of the military.

1) They don't fund those they know will lose. 2) Paul's plan calls for crushing into oblivion the capitalist system in the US altogether by ending or crippling the Federal Reserve. And they don't like that.

None of which changes the fact that the rest of the businesses in the country would be far more able to deliberately hurt the American people for their own gain under the Paul program. And so the American people would be far weaker and poorer and less able to defend themselves against harm and aggression. Paul's overall plan is for a massive redistribution of wealth, property, and rights, from individuals to corporations.

 

[useless]

...When was the army, navy, airforce etc, able to officially endorse a candidate?

 

[Cryptic_Snow]

Wall Street likes to back people they think have a chance of winning?

They give money to all the candidates, except Ron Paul. Here's another example from the 2008 election.

 

[useless]

Too bad he hasn't got a chance to win at all.

Also, you conveniantly forget Ron Paul's ties to the shrimp industry...

 

[Quackers]

big shrimp

 

[Oruc]

Ron Paul? please, vote for Obama again guys what could go wrong

Spoiler :

 

[useless]

Yes, because voting for a man (Ron Paul) who wants to eliminate the Department of Education, is such an advisable move, one which could lead to future generations becomming uneducated, which would be disastrious, given how America relies on an educated citizenry to retain it's posistion in the world.

Ron Paul doesn't care about others, he only cares about his own, the people that he recognises as being similar to him, it just so happens that these people are mainly male, white, middle-class, straight Christian people.

Eliminate what little social nets there are? Who cares! The people that suffer and starve from such an action, they're just lazy, feckless, and they weren't really people anyway, not like the middle and upper classes, they're "real" Americans.

At the end of the day, Ron Paul only cares about money, not actual people. His own ideology is based around tight-fisted policies, that benefit the already rich, that end up screwing everyone else, because to him capitalism and the free-market are inherently beneficial, abuse of the people living under it be damned.

 

[Leoreth]

I thought Ron Paul supporters would be more cautious in emphasizing that their anti-government candidate is mainly funded by government branches.

 

[useless]

Oh and just found this:

Ron Paul hates invasive government but supports state-mandated sonograms

WEST COLUMBIA, South Carolina — When GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul was asked today about Tuesday’s federal court ruling upholding an aggressive new sonogram law in his home state of Texas, the congressman said the requirement that women seeking an abortion first get a sonogram “should always have been a Texas state position

...

Paul, who opposes abortion rights, has consistently railed against intrusive Big Brother government when it comes to other issues, especially health care reform. But it’s hard to imagine anything more literally invasive than a required sonogram.

In fact, Dr. Paul’s colleagues in the Texas Medical Association came out against the law last year, saying it “not only sets a dangerous precedent of legislation prescribing the details of the practice of medicine, but it also clearly mandates that physicians practice in a manner inconsistent with medical ethics.”

...

But Paul’s supporters in South Carolina Wednesday seemed divided on the new law.

Kayla Crisp, a 23-year-old from Asheville, N.C., is a fervent Paul volunteer who drove 16 hours to work for him in Iowa. She’s a part-time nanny and student at UNC-Asheville in early childhood education who home schools her own 3-year-old daughter, Ember:

“I am personally pro-life,’’ she said, but added that she does not think abortion is “a federal issue. It should be state-regulated.”

When I asked her personal view on the sonogram law, she said: “It’s kind of invasive. It’s belittling to sit in a doctor’s office” waiting to hear “what’s going on in my body.”

Good to know that Ron Paul disavows his "Big gubbermint" ideology, only when it suits him what a nice, consistant and honest man.

Consistancy ahoy!

 

[amadeus]

useless will support any kind of police state, no matter how backwards and repressive, so long as its head pays lipservice to gay issues. Jackboots pepperspraying you in the face? That's fine, just so long as it comes with a handout. Government bureaucrats using arcane and ambiguous rules to keep poor people dependent? Just fine. The federal government uses racist drug laws to keep poor blacks in prison? Wave the rainbow flag and you've got his support! Bomb Iran, incite anti-U.S. terrorism? No problemo! He's not useless, because he's a useful pawn of the regime.

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[NYHunter]

I thought Ron Paul supporters would be more cautious in emphasizing that their anti-government candidate is mainly funded by government branches.

The government branches whose existence he supports. And whose veterans he supports. And whose employees he would stop sending overseas to die in costly unnecessary wars that inspire anti-Americanism.

 

[Cutlass]

Ron Paul? please, vote for Obama again guys what could go wrong

Spoiler :

All of the Republicans are running on the promise to exterminate the American middle class. So pick your poison

 

[Integral]

Yes, because voting for a man (Ron Paul) who wants to eliminate the Department of Education, is such an advisable move, one which could lead to future generations becomming uneducated, which would be disastrious, given how America relies on an educated citizenry to retain it's posistion in the world.

Never mind that 80%+ of Ed spending is done at the state and local levels.

I mean, I'm against it too, but let's not go overboard here.

 

[Crezth]

useless will support any kind of police state, no matter how backwards and repressive, so long as its head pays lipservice to gay issues. Jackboots pepperspraying you in the face? That's fine, just so long as it comes with a handout. Government bureaucrats using arcane and ambiguous rules to keep poor people dependent? Just fine. The federal government uses racist drug laws to keep poor blacks in prison? Wave the rainbow flag and you've got his support! Bomb Iran, incite anti-U.S. terrorism? No problemo! He's not useless, because he's a useful pawn of the regime.

amadeus will oppose any type of government, no matter how beneficial, so long as it exists to stop individuals from predating upon one another. Poison in the canned foods? That's OK, as long as individuals can futilely try to sue the corporation. Free-rider problem? That's alright, clean water is a privilege, not a right.

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[Ajidica]

Why is Ron Paul proud of the fact his donations are coming from parasites living off the government's teat rather than proud American capitalists creating wealth?

 

[downtown]

Never mind that 80%+ of Ed spending is done at the state and local levels.

I mean, I'm against it too, but let's not go overboard here.

Yeah, it's also not like we've seen a boon in educational achievement since we created it either.

 

[Tahuti]

That's OK, as long as individuals can futilely try to sue the corporation.

It's often forgotten that modern-day corporations need legal citizenship to be both feasible and worthwhile for shareholders and thus cannot exist without government interventionism.