MZprox: the mayan crisis is much worse than i thought
experts believe there is up to 80% percent chance that war will start within turns
I'd like to be the one who starts next turn if we can't reach agreement with the maya
and I don't think we will.. they are stubborn and greedy
2metraninja: I see
most unfortunate I must say
we were hoping to have solid alliance going against RB and this will take out 2 of the possible 4 teams out of the game
MZprox: if they are fool enough to build a city on their intended site I will be fool enough to attack them.. :/ i think they don't want compromise
i offered them a plan to share that territory without them cutting off our city
2metraninja: I dont want to influence your politics, but I am obliged to try to stress out once more the significance of one such war breaking. It will be ugly classical war, where all involved lose and none of them gain anything. RB will be the only winners out of this.
MZprox: sent you a picture if you are interested
the maya has its settler 2NE of that cow east of izmir
2metraninja: but this yellow dont show possible culture from a city planted on 2NE of the cows?
MZprox: with that city they would be between our cities taking every worthwhile land and them being creative would cause a big pressure on us
that yellow is my suggestion to them as a neutral zone
so that none of us would build a city there
they can build east of it, we build one west of it
2metraninja: they will think you are taking all the good land there
2metraninja: see, we swallowed down an outright robbery from Uciv in our border negotiations. we proposed them similar no-settling area. they insisted on putting 1 city in the no- settling area. we agreed and then they said they will settle another city in the previously no-settling area. but we decided 2 damned cities are not worth compromising our chances in the long run
they took Elephants, Sugar, Gems and all the green land in a river valley
MZprox: considering they have 1,5 times the land than ours we would be fool to allow them settling there... they will be responsible for the war if they do it
2metraninja: you know me and you know no one can accuse me of being push-over, but still I am Ok with that. we have more important goals
2metraninja: it is like playing a football match for the show and playing on the World Cup. play style must be more cold and less temperament, despite it might be less spectacular.
sometimes you have to play for the draw if this suits you
MZprox: tell this to the maya
they have 150 more points, more land and still putting a city in a position which robs us from our only place to expand while they could expand towards the zulu
2metraninja:
I can if you think CFC trying to negotiate peace is good
better words to be spoken before swords are drawn out
after this words lose much weight
2metraninja: all this is up to you, of course, I can understand your feelings completely
MZprox: you shouldn't interfere now..
also I don't want them to know how close I am to decalre war.. it's enough if they know they are very close
2metraninja: no, but I really think that if the issue is put forward in hard, but civilized manner, this can have some effect. I am sure Maya dont want a war at all
MZprox: we don't want war either.. we have 4-5 military units
but I will slave an army if needed
2metraninja: sigh
*sigh*
I was semi-serious considering that we just dont stop after conquering Spaniards and hit CivFR at full speed, taking at least 1/3 of their lands before they know what hit them - is it us or the freight train 
