Austria I was expecting. Not surprised by Ethiopia but most surprised by Carthage's unique ability! I liked Louis' idea too, but I can definitely see the times where that UA would come in very useful. Paticuarly with my most recent game, had a massive string of mountains separating me from the Arabs, and only six hilly tiles to cross to their cities. It was a bloodbath conquering them.
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Cicero63
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I am extremely excited about Austria, you cannot deny that they are a major cultural center of the world. The greatest composers were Austrian or they traveled to Vienna to learn music. They were a strong military force in the 18th and 19th centuries and were a major player in the Napoleonic Wars. Today they have one of the world's strongest economies. How can you undermine them?
oh my god... you're getting more and more funny. i think think it's useless to discuss with you further.
because there is a difference. without the colonization and the european diseases maybe there would be an incan empire right now... but there is no possibility to have an american empire in the bronze age... but yeah... maybe you need a masters degree in history to understand that. but wait... i haven't studied history... but why can i understand this... hmmm.... maybe i'm an historic genius
because there is a difference. without the colonization and the european diseases maybe there would be an incan empire right now... but there is no possibility to have an american empire in the bronze age... but yeah... maybe you need a masters degree in history to understand that. but wait... i haven't studied history... but why can i understand this... hmmm.... maybe i'm an historic genius
Polynesian
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I'm not a 'history buff', but I can still appreciate the importance of Ethiopia and Austria (Particularly Sigmund Freud, possibly the 2nd-most famous Austrian, and his revolutionary approach to Psychology, which has helped many peoples lives). 'cccv', I'd appreciate it if you didn't speak on behalf of all us non-History-majors, and no longer assume everyone else is, if you'll pardon the harsh terminology, as ignorant as you are. 
Hungary aren't in. It's the Hun. You really aren't making a great case for yourself.
Hungary aren't in. It's the Hun. You really aren't making a great case for yourself.
oh my god... you're getting more and more funny. i think think it's useless to discuss with you further.
because there is a difference. without the colonization and the european diseases maybe there would be an incan empire right now... but there is no possibility to have an american empire in the bronze age... but yeah... maybe you need a masters degree in history to understand that. but wait... i haven't studied history... but why can i understand this... hmmm.... maybe i'm an historic genius
The "does America belong in the game" debate has been done to death, but given their contributions as far as being a world superpower, not to mention a big deal for culture (Hollywood, the Blues, Rock and Roll), it takes a real blinding hatred of America to pretend they're not a big deal and worth playing as or against. If you /really/ think Austria has as big of a place in world history, then sorry, but there's not point in even trying to talk to you.
I'm not a 'history buff', but I can still appreciate the importance of Ethiopia and Austria (Particularly Sigmund Freud, possibly the 2nd-most famous Austrian, and his revolutionary approach to Psychology, which has helped many peoples lives). 'cccv', I'd appreciate it if you didn't speak on behalf of all us non-History-majors, and no longer assume everyone else is, if you'll pardon the harsh terminology, as ignorant as you are.
Hungary aren't in. It's the Hun. You really aren't making a great case for yourself.
I won't pardon it, and from what I read from the stream recap for today, Austria is in (seperate from the Huns, which I already knew about). If that was reported incorrectly (I didn't see the stream myself, I was working at the time), then by all means let me know. I'm basing this off of what someone else reported and assuming he got it right.
Dragonflow
Emperor
You are currently confusing Austria and Hungary. Those are completely different things. There was an Austro-Hungarian Empire in 19th century but it doesn't exist anymore.
So being a major Great Power for 400+ years, a military powerhouse, a cultural giant and scientific innovator doesn't make you important in world history?
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because there is a difference. without the colonization and the european diseases maybe there would be an incan empire right now... but there is no possibility to have an american empire in the bronze age... but yeah... maybe you need a masters degree in history to understand that. but wait... i haven't studied history... but why can i understand this... hmmm.... maybe i'm an historic genius
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Gucumatz
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Anyways here is the link for those who haven't seen the interviews yet.
The actual interview really starts an hour in.
http://www.twitch.tv/2k/b/314130733
The actual interview really starts an hour in.
http://www.twitch.tv/2k/b/314130733
ugh, sorry, you're right. I started with Austria then forgot and switched to Hungary because, like I said I'm seriously drunk. Sorry for the confusion. either way, still don't want them in my game to the exclusion of other big-deal world powers. But yeah, switching to Hungary by mistake was totally my bad.
Gucumatz
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Just a question, what are you doing Drunk on a forum? Doesn't make much sense... but you posted similar material earlier about being against "bummer civs" quite a while ago too that was somewhat inflamatory as well (and I doubt you were drunk then too).
Maybe it would be best if you didn't stir the bees nest here.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I don't like them building part of their Unique Ability based on one famous event that was nearly disastrous for Hannibal. And, even then, he still pretty much used mountain passes, same as other peoples who crossed the Alps.
It's fine. It might be useful. It's still more of a novelty than anything else, though, since it doesn't really mesh with the rest of their UA. Anyway, I suspect they'll have a second UU - either an Elephant of some kind, a Quinquereme, or a spearman.
Dragonflow
Emperor
Same here, watched the entire interview and neither Greg nor Dennis mentioned Ethiopia. Is there some other interview where they mention Ethiopia?
Monthar
Deity
Thanks for the link. I tried to watch it, but it keeps stopping every few seconds. Do these folks not understand the importance of buffering videos?
I have nothing against female leaders (as long as they look unique, like Boudicca and Dido, Maria Theresa might be too much Elizabeth/Katherine niche), but this expansion pack should really be called "Gods and Queens" instead 
So I didn't understand it correctly (as the stream didn't work)... do Huns steal enemy cities or just city names?
So I didn't understand it correctly (as the stream didn't work)... do Huns steal enemy cities or just city names?
So basically it was nothing new, because we already came to that conclusion.
Dragonflow
Emperor
I have nothing against female leaders (as long as they look unique, like Boudicca and Dido, Maria Theresa might be too much Elizabeth/Katherine niche), but this expansion pack should really be called "Gods and Queens" instead
So I didn't understand it correctly (as the stream didn't work)... do Huns steal enemy cities or just city names?
They just take their city names from the bottom list of other civs. Their UA let's them raze cities faster and they start of with Animal Husbandry.
I hope you guys enjoyed my interview with Dennis! I tried to get to as many questions as I could but it sounds like you guys got a lot of the info you wanted
Thanks Greg for answering my questions. The interview was interesting. I would like to watch the cut version of it and listen more to what was said.
They all belong and we need Austria for WWI. After all they did make a new WWI Era. Also, Austria fits the Napoleonic Era. I also like Ethiopia thats an interesting choice.
I feel the same and with Shaka added at some point. Then its time to watch Zulu and Zulu Dawn again, two of my facvorite war movies.
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