[Game thread] Smurf Mafia

vote: Jarrema

Odds are better than 50:50 hes scum IMO.

Mat93 seems to be on the ball, as well as JoanK.

@all yall

I'm off to work. It's time for me to scram. You got questions, you want to act all indignant at me threatening your life, you'll have to wait until this evening for an answer back.
 
Hit me hard guys, I have eaten some berries and now have 60 HP. I surely do not want to waste 2 lynches on me
 
Incidentally, this is why I killed BSmith the first time, he voted for me.

Since he was innocent there's nothing more to see here.

:dubious:

And BSmith was damaged by two whole votes. What in the heck were we thinking that day.

Yeah, what the heck were we thinking not piling it on an innocent smurf? We just knocked him down a little to make it easier to vig him!

2) Xenoneb/BSmith2. Right up there with johnny boy huge thumb in terms of completely expendable to the town and voting scummily. Possibly more scummily. Note also how he's trying to reduce the amount of HP damage Jarrema takes today. If Jarrema flips scum, Bsmith must die without any further question.

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NinjaCow and johnhughthom look most like they're distancing from MartinLuther with their lynch votes while also trying to assist him with the item votes.

This may be coincidental but they can explain themselves more while I kill BSmith tonight.

So let me get this straight, your case against me is that I am supposedly standing up for Jarema (unconfirmed at this time if he even is scum) yet you deem me a higher priority than Ninja and JHT who were likely distancing themselves from known scum?

Not to mention the fact that the stated reason you killed me the first time was solely because I voted for you, as if that is a sin punishable by instant death.

Jarema has a crap-ton of votes against him. I doubt it is likely that he would survive the lynch given the votes already against him. Why do you want to shut down any other discussion of any other players? Additionally, I tend to believe Jarema’s defense, and am willing to bet that he is indeed innocent. Sure, we should check him on his claims should he survive this lynch, but I think that we may have better targets out there – ones we should at least be talking about and pressuring into talking themselves.

Am I certain that Jarema is innocent? No. But I see little need for yet another vote on him at this time.

You know, I’m starting to question your town vig claim here. It seems that most everyone getting killed is at your hands. I wouldn’t put it past you to claim town vig, point out how that would be a suicidal thing to do if you were mafia, then kill your mafia partner to cement the deal and make you seem like the hero.

With the exception of ML (which could well have been a bus) your choices in night kills have been very poor and totally driven by pizza-ego (BSmith1) and personal differences between you and the target (warman). Both of which led to more innocent townies being dead. Who did you kill N1? Earthling or Zack?

We need some checks and balances to your night actions. Somebody needs to be looking over your shoulder and at least knowing what your intentions are regarding your kill targets, because right now it looks like you are the biggest threat to the town.
 
your choices in night kills have been very poor and totally driven by pizza-ego (BSmith1) and personal differences between you and the target (warman). Both of which led to more innocent townies being dead. Who did you kill N1? Earthling or Zack?
Continuing with your previous line of thought, it should be obvious which of those two ATPG would have killed.
 
:lol:
 
Continuing with your previous line of thought, it should be obvious which of those two ATPG would have killed.

I'm assuming it was you, based on recent history, but I am not sure about his relationship with Earthling, who I know some people have issues with too.

But yeah, if I had to bet on it I would say he killed you. ;)
 
No, it was almost definitely Earthling. They have quite the history, and not in a friendly way.

Besides, Night 1 of this game was October 4th, and I gave ATPG the blunderbuss treatment October 8th.
 
I'm getting mixed up on my timing. :) In that case I agree with you. Interestingly it adds one more case that shows that ATPG is not looking out for the interests of the town, but playing to his own whimsical inner dialogue.

He is dangerous and either needs to be put down, or contained in some way so that his apparent powers are actually useful to winning this game.
 
Slow down, there. It looks to me like he's been killing that way due to lack of good leads. He killed a mafioso last night, one with whom he has little to no history with.

Why are you so dogmatic about ATPG's villainy in this game? There's little evidence to back it up.
 
I guess I'm just sensitive to the fact that he killed me once already and is advocating for killing me again. I'm all for putting in checks and balances on him rather than removing him, both for his sake and the rest of the town.
 
Am I the only one hesitant to lynch Jarrema based on his role claim? I find the odds of Jarrema being scum to be much less significant than others have let on.
 
IIRC, I had a decent cover role as mafia in Kennigit's last game, so I wouldn't put too much stock into Jarrema's claim; it certainly doesn't seem to be inherently pro-town or particularly powerful.
 
Vote: Jarrema,

Give boxing gloves and all berries to choxorn

Both chocolate to me
 
IIRC, I had a decent cover role as mafia in Kennigit's last game, so I wouldn't put too much stock into Jarrema's claim; it certainly doesn't seem to be inherently pro-town or particularly powerful.

well, tbh, I believe this role (farmer smurf) has built-in confirmation system - I can give away berries that I growed. But I agree it is not 100% foolproof

Anyway, now I am going to be lynched
 
@Pizza: What can I say? I used RNG for the items on the first day and I didn't know what the tickets did then anyway.

As for the vote, I think I am going to go with vote: NinjaCow again. I don’t feel that we need another vote on Jarrema at this point, and we certainly need some more discussion of alternate candidates. Ninja has consistently taken the easy route with voting. When challenged with this yesterday, he responded by saying it is due to “RP”. This could use some more attention.

I take my RP very seriously. So then think, what Smurf would not bother voting for items and take the easy route in lynches? If you can't figure it out, don't expect me to do it for you, I'm too lazy. :p
 
well, tbh, I believe this role (farmer smurf) has built-in confirmation system - I can give away berries that I growed. But I agree it is not 100% foolproof

Anyway, now I am going to be lynched

So, how many berries do you have, Jarrema, and of what types?
 
You are not going to believe me when I say this:

I deliberately did not kill anyone on night one. I wanted to be able to establish that I was a vigilante, and N1 is the poorest odds of hitting a scum.

That plan did not work as there were more kills that night than on other nights.

I do know the origin of one of the kills, specifically, who is claiming to have killed Zack.

Look at that kill. See how it is different from all/most of the other kills. That was more of an item-based attack than an innate ability.

So, a person who has a weak kill every so often due to items, and used most of them up that night.

I know who this person is, and can out them at any time, and given how their kill method is very different from what I would expect from a mafia, I'm going to give them a little bit more time.

The Earthling kill, again, believe it or not, was not me. I could just as easily claim that it was mine, but point of fact, look at the kill method.

It's different from mine. It's plain as day.

Both kills were not from Pizza, and you can tell from the kill method. If you don't believe me due to my reputation, use your own eyes and your own logic. Why would I lie about it, either? Just a stupid thing to lie about.
 
Also BSmith is requesting some benefit of the doubt, offering nothing as collateral.

That's fine, and the request is granted. But this would be more time sensitive than most other benefit of the doubts since you didn't give me anything to work with. You have to reverse my opinion on you, or at least convince the rest of them that I shouldn't kill you.
 
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