Gangland Wars [Game Thread]

[bestrfcplayer]

Vote: Link

vote: robbiecon for that desperation vote.

 

[robbiecon]

This post proves that people have known my identity for a while now:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10337484&postcount=671

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reading over the mayor's quicktopic, some of my deceased allies mentioned Takhisis as being basically the only active cop besides Romanic. Further, if I remember correctly, the names of the cops have been known pretty much all game long.

Takhisis being an active cop, but never being attacked, even with the sudden spike in murders, tells me that he's either been extremely lucky, or the mafia seems to think an active cop is no threat.

For me, personally, that is bull. It's almost as bad as claiming doctor publicly and then surviving the whole game. That means something is a lie.

Vote: Takhisis

Robbiecon is a fine suspect, but I think it's a good idea to discuss and pressure several suspects this round, and make as informed a decision as possible. We may only get one more shot at this, if there are two murders.

 

[BSmith1068]

These are fine points, and we do need an alternative wagon to robbiecon.

vote: Takhisis

 

[Zack]

Oh well. My victory was impossible anyways.

 

[Takhisis]

In addition, 6 people didn't vote yesterday, 4 of them were WOG'd. The only two who weren't were myself and Link.

Vote: Link

This post proves that people have known my identity for a while now:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10337484&postcount=671

Identity≠Alignment≠Innocence. You're too scummy. vote:robbiecon

Reading over the mayor's quicktopic, some of my deceased allies mentioned Takhisis as being basically the only active cop besides Romanic. Further, if I remember correctly, the names of the cops have been known pretty much all game long.

Takhisis being an active cop, but never being attacked, even with the sudden spike in murders, tells me that he's either been extremely lucky, or the mafia seems to think an active cop is no threat.

For me, personally, that is bull. It's almost as bad as claiming doctor publicly and then surviving the whole game. That means something is a lie.

Vote: Takhisis

Robbiecon is a fine suspect, but I think it's a good idea to discuss and pressure several suspects this round, and make as informed a decision as possible. We may only get one more shot at this, if there are two murders.

These are fine points, and we do need an alternative wagon to robbiecon.

vote: Takhisis

If we go with pizza's reasoning we could just vote for taillesskangaru as well. I don't know why the Vipers or the Sharks -or the SK who was inactive anyway- never attacked me, but as a rookie without any abilities of his own -except the tailing, with which we did uncover a couple scummers, but I just enabled it- I was practically worthless.
Most of the scum were uncovered by one of their teammates and lost interest in the game, sprig went AFK. There can't be that many scummers left.
What happened to the lead on Zack? It's strange that he said he had data from an informer and then he was killed.

If you want an alternate wagon, well… I can already sense robbiecon changing his vote to me to try and save his scummy hide.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have strong reason to believe Taillesskangaru is innocent.

How many people knew you had no abilities? If that's the case, then it's possible the mafia avoided targeting you because you were not a threat to them. There also seemed to have been a struggle for the mafia to murder at all, so it's possible they just never got around to it.

Link does deserve some pressure. I am having trouble deciding between these, because each were suspected by people who are now dead and innocent, and I have no evidence removing them from suspicion.

 

[Takhisis]

I have strong reason to believe Taillesskangaru is innocent.

Me too, I was just making a point.

How many people knew you had no abilities? If that's the case, then it's possible the mafia avoided targeting you because you were not a threat to them. There also seemed to have been a struggle for the mafia to murder at all, so it's possible they just never got around to it.

All the police knew. I assume Nictel knew too and passed it on. Most of our game plan and abilities were posted on the QT that Nictel leaked anyway.

Link does deserve some pressure. I am having trouble deciding between these, because each were suspected by people who are now dead and innocent, and I have no evidence removing them from suspicion.

Well, what is the suspicion on me?

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Process of elimination leads to a small handful of suspects of the people remaining. I can't clear you, so you're one.

I agree on the other candidates though. I have nothing clearing those, so the noose is tightening. I'd prefer to get it right this round, and not leave it up to chance.

It would seem to me if I were mafia in this game, and I were you, I wouldn't just flat out lurk and cross my fingers. The fact that you're active every day and still alive and never attacked is all I have to go on.

That said, I don't want to make up my mind purely based on the mafia kills. It just leaves us open to manipulation. More solid evidence would be that Link should have been wogged and was not. Robbie.... I dunno.

The trouble with neutral/survival roles is that they aren't really fully allied with the town. They can switch. So, even if Robbie is a survivor win condition, he doesn't have to go after the mafia, and the mafia don't have to go after him. That plus the fact that he's a suspect are all compelling reasons to lynch him over anyone else.

But, there ARE neutrals in this game, and they won't be starting mafia or full mafia, I think. A neutral should be almost guaranteed not mafia, and claiming to be neutral is a bad idea as mafia, because it makes you an easy lynch anytime we don't have suspects.

Tricky. Robbie is going to be a pain in our butt regardless, and if he is neutral, then he's still a bad lynch. These are not good options.

 

[Tee Kay]

unvote vote:Takhisis.

I've suspected you for a long while.

 

[Takhisis]

The fact that I'm active, still alive, and never attacked means I'm scum? Please, pizza…

Obviously, at this stage, any non-scum lynch is a bad lynch, but, still… Link not being lynched would be the same as sprig (who we'd already failed to lynch once anyway) and yes, he could be scum. I'll think about it in the morning…

unvote vote:Takhisis.

I've suspected you for a long while.

What've you suspected me of, exactly?

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

The fact that I'm active, still alive, and never attacked means I'm scum? Please, pizza…

Please what?

Okay, it doesn't MEAN you're scum, but look at the facts. Someone who got attacked by mafia and survived is less likely to be scum than someone who was never attempted on.

Players who are actively voting are a greater threat to the mafia than, say, inactive players. That's why I was never surprised to see Link still alive.

Given what I know about the remaining players, you're absolutely a viable suspect. Don't please me, Takhisis. You'll have to do better than that.

 

[robbiecon]

Unvote; vote: Takhisis

I think proof enough that I have no loyalty to the mafia is that I have had no problem voting for them time and time again. I still suspect link, seeing as he wasn't WOG'd. But survival is my only aim.

 

[dcmort93]

I'm defiantely leaning towards takhisis right now, albeit for reasons I can't explain but perhaps TK or ATPG can

 

[Takhisis]

Still haven't heard of tk's suspicions.

Please what?

Okay, it doesn't MEAN you're scum, but look at the facts. Someone who got attacked by mafia and survived is less likely to be scum than someone who was never attempted on.

Players who are actively voting are a greater threat to the mafia than, say, inactive players. That's why I was never surprised to see Link still alive.

Given what I know about the remaining players, you're absolutely a viable suspect. Don't please me, Takhisis. You'll have to do better than that.

Do you want me to displease you then pizza?
What do you know about the rest? There's still lurky Link and also bestrfcplayer and Snerk who only post their votes.
If you want a reason for not killing me is that, unless I'm much mistaken, I'm the only police officer who can carry out the 'tailing' orders. Anything else?

Unvote; vote: Takhisis

Hey, I have these amazing predictive powers!

I think proof enough that I have no loyalty to the mafia is that I have had no problem voting for them time and time again. I still suspect link, seeing as he wasn't WOG'd. But survival is my only aim.

I believe you, so I'll unvote:robbiecon. It's 4-2 in favour of you now.
robbiecon (Snerk; bestrfcplayer; Takhisis)

Takhisis (askthepizzaguy;BSmith1068;taillesskangaru;robbiecon)

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hold up.

You claim to have tailing orders, and you also claim to have no abilities.

Which is true?

 

[Takhisis]

It's not an ability of my own.

Tailless sends the orders, as long as I'm alive I can do it.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you? There seems to be some confusion on the matter, because the "tail" on Zack last night should have acted as protection, and he died. (According to my mayoral associates, who know more about this than me)

Were you tailing Zack last night?

If you were, and it was supposed to act as protection, you failed.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unvote; vote: Takhisis

I think proof enough that I have no loyalty to the mafia is that I have had no problem voting for them time and time again. I still suspect link, seeing as he wasn't WOG'd. But survival is my only aim.

You have no loyalty to the town, either.

It's very dangerous leaving you alive. The only reason to do so is we are running out of time and I don't have any way of killing you, to be certain you don't vote with the mafia.

You can effectively drop the "I don't care for the mafia" act as soon as another townie dies, without fear of reprisals, I would wager. We need a scum dead, and now.

 

[Skwink]

GHOST COMMENT: This game is quite confusing.