Now that the toppling of statues and protests are slowly becoming less potent and more symbolic means to achieve progress is there a leader within the black community ready to organise a movement for real change long term?
So far the protesters has only shown that they are bent on destruction and succeeded only in further escalating the conflict. Nobody seems to have any constructive ideas or, perhaps, someone has but they are failing to make themselves heard, small wonder with such noise around.
You are still responsible for choosing to escalate. This is another huge problem - people refuse to take responsiblity for their actions and their consequences and will blame anyone for their problems but themselves.
This is another huge problem - people refuse to take responsiblity for their actions and their consequences and will blame anyone for their problems but themselves.
Looks like Crezth got his wish - people determined to resist the police are getting themselves killed. Brooks clearly wasn't panicking - or whatever excuse for his behavior you might have thought of - it was a perfectly concious and deliberate provocation. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...le-like-animals-in-interview-before-his-death
It's not an excuse either. And pointing blaming finger at people responsible for one to be stupid and ignorant (parents, perhaps?) does not help more than inventing excuses; becoming wiser and cleverer does. Doesn't look like anyone is going to learn from Brooks' experience, though. On the other hand, there are a lot of nutters screaming for blood, Crezth is a good example.
In this particular case, the guy doesn't blame anyone, he is dead.
You are still responsible for choosing to escalate. This is another huge problem - people refuse to take responsiblity for their actions and their consequences and will blame anyone for their problems but themselves
This is a huge problem, especially among police. They use lethal force when it is completely unnecessary and then go on to blame the person they murdered for making them "fear for their lives".
The general rule for self defense arguments is that you are only allowed to use as much force as necessary to deter your attacker. That's why you see a lot of non- police related self-defense shooters still end up in prison. If I'm unarmed and threatening to beat you up, that does not give you the right to use lethal force to stop me. You can only use lethal force in self-defense if your attacker has demonstrated both an intent and the means to use lethal force against you.
For some reason though, the police are not held to this same standard. That needs to change. Police need to be held accountable for their bad decisions.
They did murder him, who else I'm supposed to blame?
If a woman walks at night in criminal area, wearing short skirt, she is not behaving reasonably either.
But if she gets raped, would you blame her for that? Or the rapists?
Also, the video interview of Brooks in no way showed any intent of "conscious and deliberate provocation" of the police and the claim that it did is completely disingenuous.
Are we really discussing anything with someone whose signature is "Reverse bigotry is becoming more of an issue than straight one."? Really? It might be the most ignorant tripe I've read in a long time and that is saying something considering our current administration and social media sphere.
Are we really discussing anything with someone whose signature is "Reverse bigotry is becoming more of an issue than straight one."? Really? It might be the most ignorant tripe I've read in a long time and that is saying something considering our current administration and social media sphere.
No, it doesn't. Arguing that there is no fault in fighting cops when they show no signs of violence and just follow the instruction a sign of something creepy indeed.
Shooting someone in the back is alwaya murder and defending a murderer, unless you are his legal counsel, does demonstrate some basic flaw at the very core of your person.
Shooting someone in the back is alwaya murder and defending a murderer, unless you are his legal counsel, does demonstrate some basic flaw at the very core of your person.
So far the protesters has only shown that they are bent on destruction and succeeded only in further escalating the conflict. Nobody seems to have any constructive ideas or, perhaps, someone has but they are failing to make themselves heard, small wonder with such noise around.
There have literally been tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of peaceful protestors.
This entire mess is because a group decides to blame an entire associated cohort for the actions of a minority. You're literally part of the problem if your posts represent what you think. What should I do? Blame all CFC posters whose handle starts with "A"? Blame all posters without an avatar? Blame all posters with post counts less than 1000?
Or maybe I shouldn't typecast, especially when blaming a cohort for the actions of a few doesn't make any sense.
And before you fire back, I want you to factor in the phrase 'institutional'. Everyone knows that there are relatively outnumbered 'bad actors'. But it's the institutional processes that lead to the problems that are being protested.
Even the most peaceful of them still promote harmful nonsense like ACAB, 'defund the pollice', 'dismantle the police' etc. That serves nothing but spreading enmity, which is a very destructive thing in itself.
There's going to be this weird partisan divide where communication cannot happen, just as it happens along things like climate change or trickle down economics. I don't have the tools to bridge that gap, merely to know that it's there.
ACAB is very different from 'defund the police'. They're entirely different messages.
Defund is a response to the problem that caused the ACAB mindset. But we're going to enter this weird world where 40% of a population can understand a concept easily and 30% just cannot conceive of the idea.
The protests are going to be really vigorous, bordering on incoherent. The rot is very much at the top right now.
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