Well now you know. It's up to you to incorporate new information.
[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black
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Cloud_Strife
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Such as?
Manfred Belheim
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Your opinion is not new information. Other than being snarky you don't appear to be actually saying anything here.
Cloud_Strife
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You cannot convince a chronic contrarian to change their stances.
It's a feature, not a bug, of their ideology
JohannaK
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Oh, you know, the blacks and the queers and the women all have it easy. Try being an honest god-fearing bread-winning man and you cannot take a step without being labelled a Nazi. Nevermind the CSA flags, and the children in straight reeducation camps. That's cultural heritage. It's for their own good.
No, I am saying something.
You're saying the post was bad communication and I'm saying that you're not factoring in information. I then pointed out what you were missing, so that you know to incorporate it next time. That's really the end of the conversation. You didn't really have a chance to understand the subtext, and now you do. And you should remember it going forward.
Lexicus
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I feel like the word "reverse" in the phrase "reverse racism/bigotry" just proves the people using it know it's baloney
JohannaK
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Cognitive dissonance how they can complain that people say something is bad whilst acknowledging it is indeed bad.
There are two offshoots of overt racism that cause damage, I'm not sure what 'reverse racism' is.
The first would be in-group racism, where the social permission to mistreat a cohort based on race has been internalized. It's the capo that becomes disgusted at the prisoners. Then sometimes there's the chicken and egg where someone sees a group mistreat itself and then subconsciously degrade their opinion of that cohort.
The 2nd is misattribution of racism, where someone feels that racism aggravated a bad outcome, even when it didn't. This usually has bad health effects, but also can damage advocacy. Of course, gaslighting is used to persecute people who're cautious about this concern.
The first would be in-group racism, where the social permission to mistreat a cohort based on race has been internalized. It's the capo that becomes disgusted at the prisoners. Then sometimes there's the chicken and egg where someone sees a group mistreat itself and then subconsciously degrade their opinion of that cohort.
The 2nd is misattribution of racism, where someone feels that racism aggravated a bad outcome, even when it didn't. This usually has bad health effects, but also can damage advocacy. Of course, gaslighting is used to persecute people who're cautious about this concern.
Crezth
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Love it when libertarians band together to support the arbitrary use of deadly force by government agents and remind us all the government’s legal right to tap our phones and arrest us without cause are only hypothetical concerns and there’s no reason to suppose any government would use its powers against innocents so Calm Down, even when those powers are actively being used against innocents and the police have no oversight in determining who they view are rioters.
The thread has now evolved into the “well it’s not technically murder if what the state’s murder patrols are doing is legal” and “but what about one time the government told me a bad man was coming and they were the only ones who could stop him” phase where the real problems are black racists and lawbreakers and the only solution is RoboCop.
The thread has now evolved into the “well it’s not technically murder if what the state’s murder patrols are doing is legal” and “but what about one time the government told me a bad man was coming and they were the only ones who could stop him” phase where the real problems are black racists and lawbreakers and the only solution is RoboCop.
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Well, I don't agree that your summary is correct. What you're calling "extra information", I'm calling "things that weren't in the post". My criticism is of the post as it stands, not of the post you imagined you read. But really you're just being patronising, which isn't adding anything.
Small nitpick: There's no such thing as "reverse bigotry". Bigotry is bigotry no matter who is doing it to who.
EDIT: Basically I'm saying that by using the term "reverse bigotry" you are implying that only white people are capable of bigotry, which is of course a pretty bigoted thing to say or think about white people.
The words "vicious" and "bigotry" show your attitude clearly enough.
Of course I can. I only wanted to demonstrate that you will evade it.
Manfred Belheim
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Think you're confusing racism and bigotry there.
But I think Anysense's signature is the only example I've ever seen of someone using "Reverse [bad thing]" unironically. The only people I've ever seen/heard using the term reverse racism are people saying "there's no such thing as reverse racism". Everyone else just calls it racism.
That's okay, because you now know what other people were able to discern from the post. The context of a post is greater than just that post, considering that it's over a 100 pages into a thread. Now you know.
Sorry if I came across as condescending. You dragged this out much longer than I should have let you.
Zardnaar
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Well we had a police shooting here yesterday. As in a cop got shot and killed. First one in 11 years.
They got the suspect alive.
Different cop culture.
They got the suspect alive.
Different cop culture.
Policemen get killed in US too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...in_the_line_of_duty_in_the_United_States#2020
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Nazis got killed in WW2 also.
Crezth's obvious hyperbole notwithstanding, nobody's saying ‘let's go out and just kill cops for being cops’. What many people are saying is ‘let's stop killing blacks/Hispanics/etc. for reasons that ultimately boil down to the victims being at fault for being black/Hispanic/etc.
Bugfatty300
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Targeted and killed at rates far less than other professions and demographics. But no ones' advocating giving these other groups defacto licenses to kill and maim (Edit: well they do, but only for good ol' white boys chasing down and lynching black men in the name of public safety. Cops sure are in good company.)
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