Great Quotes II: Source and Context are Key

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I will continue fanboying W.J.B. here :p

This is a great quote from his Golden Cross speech that everyone knows.

The humblest citizen in all the land, when clad in the armor of a righteous cause, is stronger than all the hosts of error. I come to speak to you in defence of a cause as holy as the cause of liberty—the cause of humanity.

The disciple of peace, the Great Commoner, a follower of Tolstoy, the Pacifist Secretary of State, fighter for the poor - And the foundation of the moral compass of the Democratic party today.

It is a shame he has only been reduced to the "Scopes Trial" and put into a corner of history
 
He was pretty objectively terrible as a Secretary of State, regardless of his pacifism or lack thereof. Lansing was contrastingly an actual useful diplomat.
 
Yep - There is no denying that. That being said he still is the philosophical founder of the "current" Democratic party. Wilson hated WJB and how he was continuously upstaged by him and had him run around in circles purposely hurting him and making him look as a weak and even more so "foolish" sec. of state.

I still wish he hadn't been robbed against McKinley - America would have been a different (and better) place than ever before if he could even get the slightest bit of his goals done. Teddy accomplished some of his goals so in the end it worked out decently fine.
 
Huh, I could've sworn I read a post that suggested Progressivism and Populism shared meaningful goals. Must just be tired.
 
"Go away! Last words are for fools who haven't said enough!"

-Last words of Karl Marx
 
"I am not a man, I am dynamite."

- Friedrich Nietzsche, Ecce Homo
 
Huh, I could've sworn I read a post that suggested Progressivism and Populism shared meaningful goals. Must just be tired.

I honestly don't remember at the moment if you are either left/right leaning at the moment - but from the tone of the comment, sounds like you were sarcastic - but I will bite anyways.

Yes - Yes they did. While there were goals of the two movements that were different from one another, both had followers and ideas that shared many of the same principles from one another. And while leaders of each side did sometimes hate one another (IE Teddy Roosevelt vs W.J.B., Fighting Bob vs half his state, etc.) the movement coupled with progressivism helped set a new tone and shifted the political center to a further left than it ever had been.

Populism did manage to change economic policy to quite an extent and led to a decoupling away from the gold standard and policies still used by the Fed today. Populists were able to get direct election of senators and influenced the Democratic party heavily on farm policy [To an extent that even when FDR was present, populist principles had been adopted and implemented in both subsidies and tax reforms]
 
I honestly don't remember at the moment if you are either left/right leaning at the moment - but from the tone of the comment, sounds like you were sarcastic - but I will bite anyways.

Yes - Yes they did. While there were goals of the two movements that were different from one another, both had followers and ideas that shared many of the same principles from one another. And while leaders of each side did sometimes hate one another (IE Teddy Roosevelt vs W.J.B., Fighting Bob vs half his state, etc.) the movement coupled with progressivism helped set a new tone and shifted the political center to a further left than it ever had been.

Populism did manage to change economic policy to quite an extent and led to a decoupling away from the gold standard and policies still used by the Fed today. Populists were able to get direct election of senators and influenced the Democratic party heavily on farm policy [To an extent that even when FDR was present, populist principles had been adopted and implemented in both subsidies and tax reforms]
So basically, weasel words plus two statements that vaguely approach policy specifics but fail to meaningfully link Populist policy specifics to Progressive ones. Cool.

Oh, and "cynic" is my position on the political dung-pile, too. I don't know why you thought you might remember me having had a political position when I haven't really held one since you joined!

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Actual quotes:

"The proper strategy consists in inflicting as telling blows as possible on the enemy army, and then in causing the inhabitants so much suffering that they must long for peace, and force the government to demand it. The people must be left with nothing but their eyes to weep with over the war."
-LTG Philip H. Sheridan, to Otto von Bismarck, fall 1870 (following the Battle of Sedan); italics mine

"Six o'clock! The 120-mm gun on Hill 696 fires the signal shot and all batteries at the ready, from field guns to the heavy mortars, fire a salvo at the Russian positions. It is followed by thunder and booming, slamming and banging, as 700 guns open fire and hurl hissing iron and steel through the air. The shells explode in the ground, throwing heaps of earth, wood splinters and obstacles yards high into the air."
-GdI Hermann von François, Gorlice 1915, describing his corps' bombardment that began the campaign that ended in German conquest of Russian Poland
 
So basically, weasel words plus two statements that vaguely approach policy specifics but fail to meaningfully link Populist policy specifics to Progressive ones. Cool.

Oh, and "cynic" is my position on the political dung-pile, too. I don't know why you thought you might remember me having had a political position when I haven't really held one since you joined!

There are a lot of people here, can't keep track of all the cynics :lol:

Anyways - I will continue to "weasel" then, because honestly I thought everyone knew that there were common policy specifics. But here I will list some Unglaubliche Thomas ;)

Direct election of senators, introducing and passing anti-monopoly legislation (particularly on banks and railroads), shifting away from the gold standard which was a populist mainpoint and a decoupling of the currency to silver and economic reform of creating a social net and/or economic reform for working class and poor farmers were adopted by various Democratic Platforms up to FDR.

Progressives on the other hand were strong reformers and wanted to return a degree of power to the individual and care for the underprivileged and in need. Both Progressives and Populists were pro-union and for protecting the common worker. The newspapers and demagogues of the era did occasionaly bash each other - but they did share many of the same goals.
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But since you probably will call of this just "weaseling" :rolleyes:, here is a book I recommend you read to learn more about the Populist movement and its relations with the Progressive movement.

American Populism: A Social History 1877-1898 (By McMath Jr.)
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Also another quote

As a confirmed individualist I certainly do not wish to underrate the influence of the individual, for the masses do not lead the individual; rather, in the individual is vested the capacity to lead the masses.
- Gustav Stresseman speaking at his Nobel lecture. One of the great leaders of Germany
 
The tree which moves some to tears of joy, is in the eyes of others only a green thing that stands in the way. Some see nature all ridicule and deformity . . . and some scarce see nature at all. But to the eyes of the man of imagination, nature is imagination itself.

- William Blake
 
Alternatively:

A primrose by the river's brim
A yellow primrose was to him
And it was nothing more.

From The Prelude, I think, by Wordsworth.
 
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

- James Nicoll

"If you're a myth or a legend, and you're walking down a dark alleyway, you really don't want to see Dungeons & Dragons following you..."

- David Morgan-Mar, on the above
 
"If you're a myth or a legend, and you're walking down a dark alleyway, you really don't want to see Dungeons & Dragons following you..."

- David Morgan-Mar, on the above

Hehehe. DMM's comics are great fun.
 
Kindnesses are easily forgotten; but injuries! What worthy man does not keep those in mind?

-William Makepeace Thackeray
 
Similarly, Machiavelli:

'Men should either be treated generously or destroyed, because they take revenge for slight injuries: for grevious ones they cannot'
 
Admiral Sir Henry Morgan: King Of The Buccaneers
People with insufficient personalities are fond of cats. These people adore being ignored.

Elizabeth I
I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too.
 
Ideology is a tool of power. Anyone who dangles a bright, shiny ideal in front of your eyes is likely trying to distract you from the chains they're about to snap around your wrists.
—Datatech Sinder Roze, "Infobop", Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri GURPS supplement
 
"Life begins at three."
My math teacher talking about polygons
 
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